Thread: Super DMZ-RX...

I have not. But I hear about other wack test booster products on sports talk radio and TV ads. Its all crap.

We're the lucky ones because we know who to turn to for quality products and we have a "broad" understanding of the human body, proper supps and physical activity.

Also this isnt a "get rich fast" scam. I believe MOST want to keep their shit real.

For example I remember back in the day when the herbal versions of dick hardeners were first hitting the market. Some people did tests on them and found traces of Viagra and the like. So their shit was false.

UMRx has tested results. And performance reviews by those like myself. Nothing phony about it, thats a fact.

Keep doing your thing Price by providing us with true, tested and quality products.

Rock on!

Originally Posted by grootfac

Any body who have used dmz-rx can tell me how much strong it is,i plan to try,but i worry about it workable ot not?

grootfac, it definitely works. You will love it.

Originally Posted by Prince

we have completed the reformulation of Super-DMZ Rx and should have the new batch in stock within 6-8 weeks.

Is the current formula still available?

Looking forward to trying the reformulation! And OSTA Rx™ sounds very interesting!

Originally Posted by Prince

Ever heard of Ageless Male? That product is a complete joke compared to our Ultra Male Rx.

Originally Posted by TJTJ

I have not.

I have. They have radio ads for that crap playing during my commute all the time.



From their site:

Q. What is the key ingredient in Ageless Male?

A. It's called Re-Settin® and it's a precise combination of the carotenoid astaxanthin from Haematococcus pluvialis and Saw Palmetto berry lipid extract from Serenoa repens. When administered to healthy adults, the average mean testosterone levels increased from a baseline level of 6,241.5 pg/mL to over 10,000 pg/mL. The human clinical study on Re-Settin® was published in the Journal of the International Society for Sports Nutrition.

Re-Settin?

Some Googling found this:

"Re-settin" is far from new (original study published on this combo in 2008 - JISSN | Full text | An open label, dose response study to determine the effect of a dietary supplement on dihydrotestosterone, testosterone and estradiol levels in healthy males) but also under a different trademark (this is merely a knock off; products suggested as "first to market" include: Muscle Tech Cryotest or Axis Labs' Myodrol (which was the first study-dose formula; but at the same time sacrificed some of the "add-ons" seen in the Muscle Tech formula) for which Axis Labs is finally putting the effort into studying their version; in other words...these agents have been sourced differently and you really need to evaluate your own sourcing; which IMO means you simply CANNOT make claims in this industry based on another prep).

But, let's take a closer look at the original study because I smelled a rat as Saw Palmetto actually DECREASES androgeny (by way of 5AR Type 2) on the order of 61% (Potency of a novel saw palmetto ethanol extract, SP... [Adv Ther. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI) - funny how the EXACT same 61% comes up in this story (does that mean the astaxanthin contributes nothing to the equation?

Why add it at all outside of the fact that you could market a combo of astaxanthin + saw palmetto as opposed to either alone) - not exactly "usual" per se for the research world to say all 61% not converted to DHT winds up as T (there's aromatic conversion you have to take into account and subsequent reprocessing down amplification cascades into the very DHT that's being inhibited). What the hell then; how could this be - everyone's coming up with 61%?

Let's look at the original JISSN study a bit closer...

www.jissn.com - Figure

www.jissn.com - Figure

www.jissn.com - Figure

I find this (figure 3) a condeming figure because it throws out a dose-dependency effect (again, keep in mind levels of aromatization); which again is a relative atypia based on saw palmetto monotherapy trials before it. If you take figure 3 in conjunction with figures 1 + 2; there is a serum disconnect (due to increasing T; decreasing DHT; modestly increased E but not statistically significant NOR equivocal to T and DHT numbers).

Also - conspicuous by it's absence are BASELINE numbers. How would a study not show baseline numbers and claim significance - I can't even verify it?

But even still, if you take their "Day 3" numbers...the men in this trial were hypogonadal. I would question applicability to those with normal serum test.

And, to make matters worse...I have NO "Free T" (just total) which means I cannot tell a thing about viability here and what kind of reproducibility you would get if not published. Well...if SHBG increased by a profound mark, would I care at all about this "61%" increase?

So - ultimately...I remain skeptical and whole-heartedly unconvinced! When calling the Ageless Male representatives; I got some "drone response" reciting the same nonsense over and over against my questions despite my asking some things of sincere significance (continually citing the JISSN study)...but I probably shouldn't have expected much more.

^^^^

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Originally Posted by heavyiron

Abstract:

The aim of the clinical study was to evaluate the effect of Testofen, a standardized Trigonella foenum-graecum (Fenugreek) extract and mineral formulation, on male libido (sexual drive, urge or desire) in a double blind randomized placebo controlled study. The study recruited 60 healthy males aged between 25 and 52, without erectile dysfunction and randomized to an oral dose (two tablets per day) of the active treatment (600 mg Testofen per day) or placebo for 6 weeks. The primary outcome measure was the DISF-SR (male) self-administered QOL total score and the four domain scores. The secondary outcome was specific quality of life parameters. Testofen had an overall positive effect on physiological aspects of libido. In particular, there was a significant increase in the subdomains of sexual arousal and orgasm. Testofen had a positive effect on QOL in self-reported satisfaction with muscle strength, energy and well-being but did not have an effect on mood or sleep. Serum prolactin and testosterone levels remained within the reference range. It was concluded that Testofen demonstrated a significant positive effect on physiological aspects of libido and may assist to maintain normal healthy testosterone levels. Copyright © 2011 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.
Copyright © 2011 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.

PMID: 21312304 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

Honestly it is extremely disappointing seeing you try and push your product on the board as an alternative to a SERM- citing journals which studied the effects of Fenugreek on libido.

There is no exception to a SERM for PCT, no doubt that your product helps with libido issues, but telling people that ALL they need for PCT is your proprietary blend of Fenugreek extracts is bogus. Honestly would have expected you to care a bit more about the well being of the people who are loyal users of YOUR site.

Originally Posted by nugget13

Honestly it is extremely disappointing seeing you try and push your product on the board as an alternative to a SERM- citing journals which studied the effects of Fenugreek on libido.

There is no exception to a SERM for PCT(snip)

Not speaking for heavy, however I was under the impression that he noted OTC products as an adjunct to SERMs rather than in lieu of SERMs.

Okay, I stand corrected, however note that heavyiron stated, "Ultra Male Rx is a legal way to significantly boost testosterone, control Estrogen and raise libido."

By contrast, unfortunately, I believe SERMs are a gray area in some respects.

See http://www.steroidlaw.com/steroid-law-43.html

From Wikipedia:

Clomifene is commonly used by male anabolic steroid users to bind the estrogen receptors in their bodies, thereby blocking the effects of estrogen, such as gynecomastia. It also restores the body's natural production of testosterone. It is commonly used as a "recovery drug" and taken toward the end of a steroid cycle. It is included on the World Anti-Doping Agency list of illegal doping agents in sport.

Again, note heavy's caveat (in red) below:

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Post Cycle Therapy

Since Super DMZ rx will cause interruption of the Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular Axis, post cycle therapy is strongly recommended. Bulbine natalensis or ProLensis™ is a amazing over the counter testosterone recovery supplement. It stimulates the production of GNRH and also increases cholesterol in the testes. Prolensis causes production of LH, which in turn signals the testis to produce testosterone. Evidence shows that ProLensis™ can stimulate LH 169% compared to study controls. Research further shows Testosterone is boosted a whopping 347%! This natural compound is a main ingredient in IronMagLabs Bodybuilding Supplements & Prohormones: Ultra Male Rx. Ultra male Rx also has pro sexual effects as well as boosting Testosterone. Some Testosterone boosting compounds may increase Estrogen but in rodent studies it was confirmed the the main ingredient in Ultra Male Rx actually decreases Estrogen by 35%. Ultra Male Rx is a legal way to significantly boost testosterone, control Estrogen and raise libido.

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Weeks 1-4 Super DMZ RX-2 capsules per day
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^^^^ Was it smart or was it stupid? Honestly, I get the two confused at times.

Your good. If people cannot understand it, then it's their fault

Amen.

Originally Posted by nugget13

Honestly it is extremely disappointing seeing you try and push your product on the board as an alternative to a SERM- citing journals which studied the effects of Fenugreek on libido.

There is no exception to a SERM for PCT, no doubt that your product helps with libido issues, but telling people that ALL they need for PCT is your proprietary blend of Fenugreek extracts is bogus. Honestly would have expected you to care a bit more about the well being of the people who are loyal users of YOUR site.

1. Ultra Male is not my product. I do not profit at all from the sales of Ultra male.

2. Fenugreek is only one ingredient in Ultra male. Ultra male also contains Bulbine natalensis among other ingredients.

3. Ultra male not only boosts libido but also has a strong LH signal that raises testosterone. Post cycle guys typically report low libido because T levels fall sharply and the T to E2 ratio changes in favor of E2. SERM's raise E2 as well as T. However ultra male raises T and lowers E2. This is very favorable post cycle.

4. I love IronMagazine, the members and what IronMag stands for however I do not own this site. It's my hope that over time you will see that I do care for the members. I also hope you will spend some time understanding these products as they are the real deal. Herbal medicine has been used for thousands of years and is where most modern medicine is derived from brother.

Heavy, how would you incorporate Ultra Male into a pct with SERMS?

Originally Posted by njc

Heavy, how would you incorporate Ultra Male into a pct with SERMS?

I think it makes the most sense to either use one or the other.

Originally Posted by nugget13

Honestly it is extremely disappointing seeing you try and push your product on the board as an alternative to a SERM- citing journals which studied the effects of Fenugreek on libido.

There is no exception to a SERM for PCT, no doubt that your product helps with libido issues, but telling people that ALL they need for PCT is your proprietary blend of Fenugreek extracts is bogus. Honestly would have expected you to care a bit more about the well being of the people who are loyal users of YOUR site.

Main ingredient in Ultra Male Rx ~ http://prolensis.com/

Awsome article Prince!

If SDMZ is so anabolic and strong, would anyone use the oct pct recommended for it for another cycle in lieu of a serm?


Doubt it... Unless SDMZ is not as legit as claimed or the OTC pct recommended by iron mag labs is better than a serm... OR the company is negligently pushing an inadequate pct for a strong product...

Which one is it?