Thread: Vibrant gets Super hard with SDMZ & Formerone log

Originally Posted by oufinny

Are you just dosing it at 2 per day? Also, I assume you are running test so I am surprised to hear you are having so many issues. I know DMZ on its own at 20mgs is not bad but the superdrol, not everyone does well with it. I don't do superdrol but DMZ I am fine with.

yup, 2 a day. I wouldn't say that Im having too many issues, just lethargy. Like heavy said, I'll try adding some quality carbs in the morning. I felt better today than yesterday so maybe I'm starting to get used to it.

weighed myself yesterday and weight has stayed the same but I'm looking a little leaner. I think at this point my myostatin levels are too high to be gaining weight, I will try running some folli in a few days to see if I can gain a few more lbm before pct.

started blasting hcg a few days ago.


my joints are feeling a little sore, so I think I'll cut back the formerone to one pump a day.

I can't wait to see what the folli does for you brother.

Originally Posted by Pittsburgh63

I can't wait to see what the folli does for you brother.

I cant wait either something about petides make me excited, probably cause they're fairly new and I like being a guinea pig

Hey Vibrant... about how long do you think one bottle of Formeron last. I'm looking to pick some up, but wasn't sure how many I need.

Originally Posted by Pittsburgh63

Hey Vibrant... about how long do you think one bottle of Formeron last. I'm looking to pick some up, but wasn't sure how many I need.

depends on how you dose. it comes in a 120ml bottle and 1 dose is 1 pump. Im using 2pumps a day, so theoretically that should last me 60 days but I like to plan for a little loss. same thing with vials, you probably wont get 10 1ml injections from a 10ml vial.

good deal... thanks brother.

sorry for the lack of updates.

I took this weekend off.

Thurs and fri were the first days that I felt good in my workouts since starting sdmz. I think this week is going to be a good one in terms of training.

Started Follistatin today. gonna do 200mcg for 5 days.

Originally Posted by Vibrant

sorry for the lack of updates.

I took this weekend off.

Thurs and fri were the first days that I felt good in my workouts since starting sdmz. I think this week is going to be a good one in terms of training.

Started Follistatin today. gonna do 200mcg for 5 days.

When are you going to be off AAS/PH's? that way we can see if the formerone is working.

Originally Posted by TJTJ

When are you going to be off AAS/PH's? that way we can see if the formerone is working.

My pct will start feb 25.

I think I came down with a cold unfortunately but surprisingly Mon & tues workouts were pretty good. heading to the gym tonight, will probably cut back on the intensity a little but I think I'll be ok.


Taking a shitload of the emergenC packets to get some vitamin c in me to help beat the cold faster. Also had a few packets of theraflu, that stuff seems to help me when I get sick.

Originally Posted by Vibrant

My pct will start feb 25.

I think I came down with a cold unfortunately but surprisingly Mon & tues workouts were pretty good. heading to the gym tonight, will probably cut back on the intensity a little but I think I'll be ok.


Taking a shitload of the emergenC packets to get some vitamin c in me to help beat the cold faster. Also had a few packets of theraflu, that stuff seems to help me when I get sick.

You know About Vitamin C and PCT right? It reduces aromatase reductase, the major enzyme responsible for converting androstenedione and testosterone into estrogen.

I always take 3-4g spaced out though out the day on cycle and pct. So what im saying is, its a good thing

Originally Posted by TJTJ

You know About Vitamin C and PCT right? It reduces aromatase reductase, the major enzyme responsible for converting androstenedione and testosterone into estrogen.

I always take 3-4g spaced out though out the day on cycle and pct. So what im saying is, its a good thing

Yeah, definitely know about vitamin c for pct. I'll post my planned pct protocol when I get closer to pct. It may be overkill but Im not taking any chances after being on gear so long. About two weeks after pct, I'll get bloodwork and post it up for you guys.



Since Im a bit sick, today at the gym I decided to focus on muscle contractions. used less weight but really tried to squeeze the muscle I was working. I felt like I got a really good workout.

is the verdict out on Formerone? is it "Vibrant approved"

Originally Posted by aaronsoccer4

is the verdict out on Formerone? is it "Vibrant approved"

I don't want to give a premature answer but at this point, I'm not seeing any estro sides. Take that how you will, and I'll give a more in depth answer when I've been on it longer.

Hey vibrant, I'm on week 3 of super dmz and I'm damn lethargic too and that's at 400 carbs a day. Ill try to add more quality carbs in morning like you said heavy suggested. I'm irritable as shit I've noticed and the back pumps are trying to kill me I think lol other than that I fucking love this shit. Up like 20lbs, looking swole all the time just wish the back pumps would subside. Trying to get lots of water and taking 12grams taurine every morning but going to add pre workout too cuz that's when its the worst. Glad yours is going well. You having any of the other same issues I am?

I was lethargic for maybe about the first 10-12 days. Now I feel pretty good other than my cold and surprisingly even with my cold I'm going pretty hard in my workouts.

I never get back pumps on any gear. Try adding some electrolytes. Electro mix by emergenc is a good choice.

Well lucky you! I've got some Gatorade mix ill throw in pre workout with my taurine, I've got deads tomorrow so I've gotta get this under control or I'm not gonna be able to do them. Had to sit down between sets of squats yesterday lol yea that bad. I never got back pumps on the two mdrol cycles I did so Idk? Hey thanks for the advice though I hope your sides stay mild! Happy lifting bud!

Lol

Originally Posted by hill450

Hey vibrant, I'm on week 3 of super dmz and I'm damn lethargic too and that's at 400 carbs a day. Ill try to add more quality carbs in morning like you said heavy suggested. I'm irritable as shit I've noticed and the back pumps are trying to kill me I think lol other than that I fucking love this shit. Up like 20lbs, looking swole all the time just wish the back pumps would subside. Trying to get lots of water and taking 12grams taurine every morning but going to add pre workout too cuz that's when its the worst. Glad yours is going well. You having any of the other same issues I am?

Add a cup of cooked oats in the AM for breakfast. Try to get Quakers Multi Grain. It has Oats, Barley, Wheat and Rye. It'll fight the lethargy by supplying you with the complex carbs of glycogen and insulin balance through out most of the day.

Originally Posted by TJTJ

Add a cup of cooked oats in the AM for breakfast. Try to get Quakers Multi Grain. It has Oats, Barley, Wheat and Rye. It'll fight the lethargy by supplying you with the complex carbs of glycogen and insulin balance through out most of the day.

Ill look for that thanks man

training is going pretty good. I took this weekend off to rest up and get over my cold. my veins look like they're pumped all day long.

Since I promised to lay out my pct protocol, here it is.

Will be starting saturday.

Clomid 100/100/75/50/50
nolva 40/20/20/20/20
formerone two pumps a day(may adjust)

GHRP-6 200mcg 2-3 times a day(upon waking up, pre bed, and sometimes post workout)
CJC 1295 NO DAC 100mcg 2-3 times a day (will be starting the peps tomorrow)

Clen starting from the second week- 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 2 weeks on

Supplements:

D-aspartic-acid by e-pharm(testforce 2)

Vitamin C 5g a day

Multi Vitamin(orange triad)

Fish Oil total 4g omega-3 (orange oximega)

Creatine 5g (will load the first week at 20g per day)

Milk thistle

Saw palmetto

Luetin


BOOM!!! thats my pct.

How would you rate the cycle?
Scale from 1-10?

Originally Posted by brundel

How would you rate the cycle?
Scale from 1-10?

which cycle?

my full one overall or just my sdmz/formerone run?

I suppose just the DMZ-form

Or both.

Originally Posted by brundel

I suppose just the DMZ-form

I kinda dont like putting number ratings because they dont always tell the whole picture. But I liked the sdmz/form and I still have about a week left until pct. will be taking 3 caps of sdmz now that I got over the lethargy.

Form did what it was supposed to. didnt notice any estro sides from switching from letro to formerone. my libido returned which is nice.

Originally Posted by brundel

Or both.

Thats a mixed answer. I wouldn't recommend long cycles such as mine to anyone else because after a while unless you constantly up the doses or add new compounds in, your body gets used to the gear and it pretty much turns into a cruise imo.

But Im satisfied because I pretty much have the mass I wanted for my sport. Dont want to get too much bigger, my next cycle will be a slight cut/recomp where I want to drop around 3% bf and keep my size/add a few lbm.

Sounds like a successful cycle.
Sounds like things went as planned.

Hopefully PCT goes well.

So is there a verdict yet?