Thread: Andro hard/lean

welcome,man.

Originally Posted by itodobien

Hello all. As I am sure you all can tell, I am brand new to this site. I have worked out for the majority of my life, played college football, and currently am in the military. I am looking at possibly trying supplements to get more cut and drop some weight I gained as a result of an injury. I have been readinig for the past few days and am still trying to get a handle on things. Right now it looks like I wold like to try the andorhard/lean line of products. I don't know how to "stack" them properly and if I should be using something during and then after. Any help would be apprciated.

You can find lots of info on stacking them on primordialperformance.com where they talk about them and we also sell them.

I'm wanting to trim down my body fat and heard AndroLean is a good way to go but stacking it is so damn expensive, is there other products out there that are exactly like it that are cheaper?

Iml halo extreme would be a better choice imo.

Do you recommend halo extreme only because it is sold by this website?

Originally Posted by itodobien

Do you recommend halo extreme only because it is sold by this website?

The andro series are not expensive when you consider all you need to run a PH cycle. Hard/lean would be a great stack and Orbit will have stock this week.

The more i read, the more I thik androlean stacked wit handrodrive looks like the right stack for what i am looking for. Would cycle support be necessary for this stack?

Originally Posted by itodobien

The more i read, the more I thik androlean stacked wit handrodrive looks like the right stack for what i am looking for. Would cycle support be necessary for this stack?

Yes, if money is a cost go with a SERM, however we are recommending the Testosterone Recovery Stack at our site. Shoot me a PM bud

Originally Posted by oufinny

The andro series are not expensive when you consider all you need to run a PH cycle. Hard/lean would be a great stack and Orbit will have stock this week.

Sweet Orbit always has killer deals

Originally Posted by itodobien

Do you recommend halo extreme only because it is sold by this website?

No, I'm recommending it because it's an actual pro hormone that has a ton of great feedback. The andro products are just over hyped dhea products imo.

PP makes a very productive and well designed line of supps. I tried their androlean last year and was very impressed and their DAA product TCF-1 is in my topps for DAA. Soon as my Dr releases me from shoulder surgery I'm running their Androdrive, Dermacrine, TCF-1, then ending it with sustain Alpha.

Originally Posted by oufinny

The andro series are not expensive when you consider all you need to run a PH cycle. Hard/lean would be a great stack and Orbit will have stock this week.

Who is Orbit? The slales rep on the primordial site said they are out of stock because they are having trouble synthsizing the hormone (V3).

Originally Posted by ryansm

Yes, if money is a cost go with a SERM, however we are recommending the Testosterone Recovery Stack at our site. Shoot me a PM bud

So just a recovery stack? Should I be running the cycle support during as well? I don't think I can PM

Originally Posted by oufinny

The andro series are not expensive when you consider all you need to run a PH cycle. Hard/lean would be a great stack and Orbit will have stock this week.

Not seeing andro series stuff on their website?

Originally Posted by itodobien

Not seeing andro series stuff on their website?

Hey itodobien....

PrimordialPerformance.com is going to have a lot of information for you. Here are links to the write-ups for our products that are going to interest you:

Andromass
Androlean
Androdrive
Androhard

I would really suggest a stack of Androdrive and Androhard. Androlean's ETA is March 15th, so if you're ok to wait, I'd suggest a stack of Androhard and Androlean instead. HOWEVER, if you are planning to start the cycle sooner... Androdrive+Androhard is the ideal stack. PCT would be the Testosterone Recovery Stack.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy

Hey itodobien....

PrimordialPerformance.com is going to have a lot of information for you. Here are links to the write-ups for our products that are going to interest you:

Andromass
Androlean
Androdrive
Androhard

I would really suggest a stack of Androdrive and Androhard. Androlean's ETA is March 15th, so if you're ok to wait, I'd suggest a stack of Androhard and Androlean instead. HOWEVER, if you are planning to start the cycle sooner... Androdrive+Androhard is the ideal stack. PCT would be the Testosterone Recovery Stack.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Yea, that seems like a good stack as well. How would it work if I did the hard/drive for 4 weeks, then switched to hard/lean once it got in? I can only cycle for 8 weeks right? How long do you run the PCT for, and when is it safe to start again?

Originally Posted by Vibrant

No, I'm recommending it because it's an actual pro hormone that has a ton of great feedback. The andro products are just over hyped dhea products imo.

Actual prohormone...hmmm

thanks for your opinion

Originally Posted by itodobien

Yea, that seems like a good stack as well. How would it work if I did the hard/drive for 4 weeks, then switched to hard/lean once it got in? I can only cycle for 8 weeks right? How long do you run the PCT for, and when is it safe to start again?

I would wait and run the AL/AH or AL/AD for 8 weeks total. PCT will be the TRS stack for 4 weeks. I recommend time on, including PCT= time off so for this 8 week cycle plus 4 weeks of PCT you could start up another one after 12 weeks. That said, blood tests will more accurately define your ability to cycle again.

I have taken the androhard before, and in my opinion, there are much better options out there. The Andro series as stated above is a bunch of overhyped, overpriced crap. I would look into the products that Prince offers at Ironmag. I have had tremendous success with them.

Originally Posted by ryansm

Actual prohormone...hmmm

thanks for your opinion

Don't feed 'em.

Originally Posted by HereToStudy

Don't feed 'em.

kinda like that

Originally Posted by pwloiacano

I have taken the androhard before, and in my opinion, there are much better options out there. The Andro series as stated above is a bunch of overhyped, overpriced crap. I would look into the products that Prince offers at Ironmag. I have had tremendous success with them.

What are the better options in your opinion?

Originally Posted by itodobien

What are the better options in your opinion?

Curious as well. Please explain to me what product on the OTC market is a better PH to DHT?

Originally Posted by itodobien

The more i read, the more I thik androlean stacked wit handrodrive looks like the right stack for what i am looking for. Would cycle support be necessary for this stack?

Unfortunately the closest thing to AndroLean v3 that you can get is mega dosing 11-oxo w/ some mct oil or olive oil and hope it converts and absorbs....

At that rate it will be just as expensive.....

The esterified 11KT hormone combined with 7oxo ester is unique and one-of-a-kind.

Unfortunately we all have to wait until April to get new ANdrolean.

In the mean time a DRIVE/HARD stack would be bad ass....

Maybe 3 drives and 6 hards for 6-8 weeks?

-Matt

Drive and Hard at 8 weeks Using Drive now and it crushes appetite at 6 pills a day

Oh man don't say that crap!! I would love to crush my appetite right about now!! I have to check my bottle Ryan, but is andro drive 6 caps daily or you just doing it like that?

Originally Posted by MattPorter

Unfortunately the closest thing to AndroLean v3 that you can get is mega dosing 11-oxo w/ some mct oil or olive oil and hope it converts and absorbs....

At that rate it will be just as expensive.....

The esterified 11KT hormone combined with 7oxo ester is unique and one-of-a-kind.

Unfortunately we all have to wait until April to get new ANdrolean.

In the mean time a DRIVE/HARD stack would be bad ass....

Maybe 3 drives and 6 hards for 6-8 weeks?

-Matt

April? I thought we were looking at 15 march? The only reason I am not jumping on the Drive/Hard is because I don't want to cycle and then have to wait 2 more months to cycle again. I am not looking to get much bigger, I want to reduce body fat. I'm still plenty strong from college. BTW, this forum is really good, I appreciate all of the expert advice. How does one get discounts on the ando series of supps?

Originally Posted by itodobien

April? I thought we were looking at 15 march? The only reason I am not jumping on the Drive/Hard is because I don't want to cycle and then have to wait 2 more months to cycle again. I am not looking to get much bigger, I want to reduce body fat. I'm still plenty strong from college. BTW, this forum is really good, I appreciate all of the expert advice. How does one get discounts on the ando series of supps?

Wait 2 months?

You very well could run a 4 week pct and jump back on cycle.

You dose them once a day and run proper pct and I doubt inhibition will be moderate at all.

From all the data we have collected people were bouncing back in 4 weeks. Keep moving forward and jump back on cycle.

-Matt