Thread: sustaining the "pump" ?

N02 Hemodilator

The reviews on this site have not been good, but one thing that I personally have experienced is the "perpetual pump" that it advertises. I don't buy it anymore b/c it is ridiculously overpriced.

There is a supplement called NO2 that makes this claim, but from what I have read it's a crock.

Creatine & Glutamine both enhance muslce cell volume (water inside of cells), which can make your muscles fuller. (these 2 supps actually have real science behind them!)

You do realize that a pump is not an indication of a good or successful work-out, right? From a physiological perspective getting a pump has no effect on muscle hypertrophy.

Originally posted by Prince


You do realize that a pump is not an indication of a good or successful work-out, right? From a physiological perspective getting a pump has no effect on muscle hypertrophy.

This is exactly why I don't buy NO2, it is too expensive for a product that makes you look bigger w/o helping you get bigger.

I do think that NO2 does deliver the pump, but I have seen no evidence that it helps add size. I'll stick with Creatine.

(I have used 2 bottles, so not exactly a long track record)

Dianabol, which is illegal, and is still only going to last for a few hours, not days. So I'm guessing the answer for legal supplements, is no.

synthol

didn't think of that one.

Creatine, I prefer cell-tech, you wake up with a pump.

Originally posted by Lightman009
Creatine, I prefer cell-tech, you wake up with a pump.

Yeah and you wake up with a lighter wallet also

Originally posted by Prince
Creatine & Glutamine both enhance muslce cell volume (water inside of cells), which can make your muscles fuller. (these 2 supps actually have real science behind them!)

Trac by MHP supposedly is a creatine with Nitric Oxide in it, claims to have pumps all day. I just ordered some so I'll let you know.

Originally posted by MeanCuts
Yeah and you wake up with a lighter wallet also

Money well spent.

Originally posted by Lightman009
Money well spent.

Have you tried other creatine products?If so you really believe that the creatine in cell-tech is somehow better than the others?

Q: Does having a pump make your muscles grow?
A: No
i'm at lost at why anyone would think getting a pump is so important.
I take supplements to help my muscles grow,getting lean and for good health not for a pump

Good point MeanCuts, I think this is one of the first times I agree with you!

A pump does not cause hypertrophy! You should not lift to obtain a pump, nor should you even be concerned about it.

YEP Ive tried all creatine products. And cell-tech works best.

Originally posted by Lightman009
YEP Ive tried all creatine products. And cell-tech works best.

How exactly does it work better?

As far as pump goes, Ive never had a better pump than I do with Cell-tech. And my energy in the gym has never been higher as well as my endurance.

Originally posted by Lightman009
As far as pump goes, Ive never had a better pump than I do with Cell-tech. And my energy in the gym has never been higher as well as my endurance.

Well if you think cell-tech is worth the extra money that's cool whatever works best for you. Personally I've tried cell-tech once and that was it since I couldn't tell a difference between it and the other creatine I tried before(except the price) i've tried many brands since and have never been disappointed yet.

Originally posted by Lightman009
As far as pump goes, Ive never had a better pump than I do with Cell-tech.

can you explain to me exactly what a pump will do for you in regards to muscle growth?

I never said it helped with muscle growth. Somebody just asked what helped them sustain a pump. But I have heard that the more water that is flushed to your muscles is beneficial to muscle growth.

Originally posted by Lightman009
I never said it helped with muscle growth. Somebody just asked what helped them sustain a pump. But I have heard that the more water that is flushed to your muscles is beneficial to muscle growth.

The more water yes I also think this can be benefical as a cell volumizer but that's not a pump.A pump is blood not water.I think your talking about the water retention from creatine

Originally posted by Pepper
N02 Hemodilator

The reviews on this site have not been good, but one thing that I personally have experienced is the "perpetual pump" that it advertises. I don't buy it anymore b/c it is ridiculously overpriced.

My experience has been the same. While I don't think NO2 and the 'pump' does anything for me in a physological sense, it sure does in a psychological sense.

The same could be said for having a great workout tape. If it gets you feeling good, then you probably will do better, lift more weights.. which does do something for you.

So regardless of NO2's or Nitric Oxide's ACTUAL effects on muscle building, it's my workout tape in a sense.

But.. Pepper is correct... I could get an MP3 player and save myself a ton of cash. It is ridiculously overpriced.

I've also heard TRAC by MHP is impressive.. but I've not personally tried or used it yet. It's on the list for sure.

My opinion on any supplement or equipment, gloves, etc. is if you think it helps, then by all means use it. You always want your mind working for you.

Originally posted by Wolfpack22
My opinion on any supplement or equipment, gloves, etc. is if you think it helps, then by all means use it. You always want your mind working for you.

This is definitly true "whatever works for you" but I try to do some research before I take a new supplement and try not to fake myself out

I experienced a much harder and longer pump when using PLASMA EXPANDOR by VPX.

Originally posted by Prince
can you explain to me exactly what a pump will do for you in regards to muscle growth?

This is not meant to sound negative................
Correct me if I'm wrong. Is a pump not your muscles filling and engourging with blood??? If that is true why would that not help growth?

Okay let me say this again. Obtaining a muscle pump from training IS NOT an indication of growth or even a successful set or workout for that matter.

Let me explain what actually causes a muscle to become pumped so you can better understand why is not an indicator of a successful set or workout.

Like yourself, most people think (and are taught) that the pumped feeling you get while training is a result of increased blood flow into the muscle. This is wrong.

The full and tight feeling, the pump, after a set or workout is not the result of increased blood flow into the muscle. This pump is actually the result of "trapped" blood within the muscle. When a muscle contracts the actual fiber diameter increases as it shortens. This muscle contraction exerts an "inward" force upon itself. This inward force temporarily shuts off vascular activity that blocks blood flow out of the particular muscle group being trained.

When this happens, an increase in blood pressure occurs as an attempt to clear the backed up blood from the congested capillaries and into the maze of interstitial spaces of the muscle cells. As a result of this congestion, a muscular pump prevails.

As you can now see obtaining a muscle pump has nothing to do with increased blood flow into the muscle, but rather a temporary entrapment of blood within the muscle. So you are not increasing the blood flow into the muscle you are decreasing the blood flow out of the muscle while at the same time increasing blood pressure.

This should clearly indicate why a muscle pump has nothing directly to do with muscle growth. This is yet another myth ignorantly propagated by the magazines and gym gurus. Like many things in weight training and bodybuilding, it seems right but it's not.

There is no physiological reason to "train for the pump." For muscle growth you should train to maximize overload force on the muscle because it's the overload that induces the metabolic activities needed for muscle growth to occur. - Paul Delia

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