Thread: Thermo questions...

btw, if you see this, Jodi...

I noticed in an old thread that you had tried Adrenaline - how'd that work for you?

What kind of ephedrine are you taking?I would have thought 25mg would have been fine starting out but if you don't feel it you should try 2 and if you don't feel it then get your money back
PS I would never use ephedrine for anything besides cutting,but that's just me

Mean, E is a terrific nutrient partitioning agent.

Mono, I use 50mg preworkout and in 25 mg the rest of the time. Are you taking caffiene as well? If not, that could be why. E is almost useless w/o.

If/when you up it pay attention to your heart rate, sweating, etc.

Ahhh... thats probably why. I havent been stacking it with caffeine.

I'll pick up some caffeine pills and give it a go.

200mg caffeine/25mg ephedrine to start?

btw, meancuts... i am cutting, but dont really want to take a stimulant throughout the day. just need something to keep me at a high intensity for my w/o.

i must say, though, i think ive been getting a bit of a placebo effect... i had a nice leg w/o today.

25/200 is optimal.

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Mean, E is a terrific nutrient partitioning agent.

I'm not saying it isn't but when I take E for a long period of time it's effects become weaker as expected and even if you take more it doesn't seem to be as good and I'd rather save it for my cutting

Originally posted by Monolith
btw, meancuts... i am cutting, but dont really want to take a stimulant throughout the day. just need something to keep me at a high intensity for my w/o.

I hear ya cutting definitly saps your energy level.PS if you drink coffee take your E with that works great for me and saves the money on caffeine pills.

Originally posted by MeanCuts
I'm not saying it isn't but when I take E for a long period of time it's effects become weaker as expected and even if you take more it doesn't seem to be as good and I'd rather save it for my cutting

Its effects as a thermogenic do not become weaker. Studies show that, in fact, they become stronger.

That said, if you are using it as a stimulant, then perhaps cycling would be best.

Originally posted by MeanCuts
I hear ya cutting definitly saps your energy level.PS if you drink coffee take your E with that works great for me and saves the money on caffeine pills.

I do the same. Except preworkout, when I don't want to drink coffee.

I can't stand the taste of coffee unless its got lots of cream and sugar in it.

Suffice to say, i dont drink much coffee.

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Its effects as a thermogenic do not become weaker. Studies show that, in fact, they become stronger.

That said, if you are using it as a stimulant, then perhaps cycling would be best.

I never used it for the thermogenic effects just for the appetite suppression and extra energy while cutting

Then there you have it. No need to supress appetite when bulking.

BTW, I do cycle, and I never get the extra energy anymore.

Originally posted by Monolith
I can't stand the taste of coffee unless its got lots of cream and sugar in it.

Suffice to say, i dont drink much coffee.

Yeah I guess then caffeine pills are the way to go for ya

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Then there you have it. No need to supress appetite when bulking.

BTW, I do cycle, and I never get the extra energy anymore.

How long are your cycles?

No set plan.

I generally take it on and off while cutting (I am referring to it as a thermo here -- I almost always take it pre-w/o, mostly for the caff).

I always take it post-PH cycle as well, for its thermo and partitioning effects. I usually will not take it during bulking.

Nutrient partitioning, is, IMO the most significant aspect of bodybuilding and totally misunderstood. Over the next year expect the community knowledge in this area (and what supps significantly impact it) to be vastly different.

Successfully partitioning nutrients will mean the end of cutting and bulking, as you could achieve both, simultaneously.

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Nutrient partitioning, is, IMO the most significant aspect of bodybuilding and totally misunderstood. Over the next year expect the community knowledge in this area (and what supps significantly impact it) to be vastly different.

Successfully partitioning nutrients will mean the end of cutting and bulking, as you could achieve both, simultaneously.

Well i look forward to the info coming out on it because I don't like cutting and bulking but I do it cause I see results

Ditto. I look forward as well.

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Successfully partitioning nutrients will mean the end of cutting and bulking, as you could achieve both, simultaneously.

Originally posted by Monolith
btw, if you see this, Jodi...

I noticed in an old thread that you had tried Adrenaline - how'd that work for you?

That was a year ago and since then I've stayed clear of thermos. I had to stop taking these too. Doesn't matter what I try I get the jitters and my heart races. I hate em all. Thats just me of course cuz I think there fine if they work for you.

If thermos don't work what about 7-keto-DHEA? Raises natural thyroid levels.

Originally posted by Jodi
That was a year ago and since then I've stayed clear of thermos. I had to stop taking these too. Doesn't matter what I try I get the jitters and my heart races. I hate em all. Thats just me of course cuz I think there fine if they work for you.

Thermos aren't for everyone that's for sure It's just too bad more people weren't as smart as you and could tell when something wasn't for them.

Originally posted by MeanCuts
Thermos aren't for everyone that's for sure It's just too bad more people weren't as smart as you and could tell when something wasn't for them.

Amen.

Personally, I love the jitters! Before I started working out, I was one of those fools who used to pop 6 or 7 25mg tabs and run around like a mad man for hours.
Now you cant even get 25mg tabs here in Canada. I usually pop 3 or 4 of the 8mg tabs now, once when I wake up, once at lunch. I always take caffeine (200mg) and aspirin (325mg) with it. Like other said earlier, its much much more effective with the C&A.

Actually, aspirin is useless, except perhaps in the clinically obese.

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Actually, aspirin is useless, except perhaps in the clinically obese.

Yeah I thought the aspirin was just in case the E gave you headaches

No, its based on studies that showed it worked synergistically with the E (as the C does). Those studies only apply to the clinically obese, and it got blown out of proportion.

Originally posted by Psilokan
Personally, I love the jitters!.

Well jitters are one thing but a racing heart or chest pains is another

Originally posted by Twin Peak
No, its based on studies that showed it worked synergistically with the E (as the C does). Those studies only apply to the clinically obese, and it got blown out of proportion.

Cool i'm not missing anything then