Thread: Natural GH increases

I would look into A-GPC as well

Any personal experience with it?

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Hmm this is interesting will have to try it myself as well. Good post brother.

Thanks. I'll look for those articles and update the thread with the links.

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Here is some information about the HGH increase.


http://www.livestrong.com/article/28...se-hgh-levels/

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/cathgh.htm

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sleep helps lol. most people overlook the importance of (quality) sleep. maybe add some valerian root, kava kava, magnesium, calcium, melatonin right before bed. this combo knocks me out.

I've tried some of those but never as a stack. Right now I'm taking gaba and it helps me sleep better than I have in years. I may try that though. Especially the valerian root. That's supposed to be good for anxiety.

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Originally Posted by NaKiD EyE

sleep helps lol. most people overlook the importance of (quality) sleep. maybe add some valerian root, kava kava, magnesium, calcium, melatonin right before bed. this combo knocks me out.

This man has the correct idea. A substantial portion of your daily output of growth hormone is secreted the REM cycle of sleep. The only supplements that will increase your growth hormone levels are those which support healthy sleep.

Originally Posted by hellguy

Any personal experience with it?

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Yes I use it often with EndoAmp you can read more about at this link EndoAmp is a Phosphatidylserine for Reducing the Stress Hormone Cortisol

The active ingredient alpha-glycerylphosphorylcholine (A-GPC) increases the synthesis and release of an important neurotransmitter known as acetylcholine which enhances GH production following exercise. A recent study examined GH release in resistance trained men after supplementation with a single 600mg dose of A-GPC. When supplemented with A-GPC, GH levels peaked 68% higher than placebo following exercise. The peak bench press force was also 14% greater with A-GPC than placebo.

I get great sleep from AI HGH Pro but nothing is as effective as peptides for this. Cheaper and obviously easier to get than real GH.

i prefer either endoamp or igf 2

Originally Posted by R1balla

i prefer either endoamp or igf 2

I looked at many different blends on the market and could not decide on one. I know that each one is specific and if that blend is what is right for you, you will have positive results. I am taking a more scientific approach in that I will make minor changes gradually and note the effects. I still may look into some of the suggestions that you guys are making but I am ever cautious.

Originally Posted by hellguy

I looked at many different blends on the market and could not decide on one. I know that each one is specific and if that blend is what is right for you, you will have positive results. I am taking a more scientific approach in that I will make minor changes gradually and note the effects. I still may look into some of the suggestions that you guys are making but I am ever cautious.

If you are insinuating that what was suggested are in some way unsafe, I believe you are sorely mistaken. Not that I am a huge fan of it, AppNut IGF-2 has been on the market for a long time and if it was not safe, people would have made that clear by now. As for the others mentioned, the same thing goes for them.

Originally Posted by hellguy

I looked at many different blends on the market and could not decide on one. I know that each one is specific and if that blend is what is right for you, you will have positive results. I am taking a more scientific approach in that I will make minor changes gradually and note the effects. I still may look into some of the suggestions that you guys are making but I am ever cautious.

EndoAmp Max and ghrp-2 (or Ipamorelin) + Grf-129 is a winner. Throw in some L-dopa and melatonin at night and you will see some nice recomposition effects

-Matt

There is actually a very good correlation between BCAA use and Human Growth Hormone increases.

I use melatonin, magnesium and occasionally benadryl. Works great.

Originally Posted by PushAndPull

I use melatonin, magnesium and occasionally benadryl. Works great.

"Works great"? So I assume you have some sort of lab test correlating your use of Benadryl, magnesium and melatonin to growth hormone elevation?

Originally Posted by teezhay

"Works great"? So I assume you have some sort of lab test correlating your use of Benadryl, magnesium and melatonin to growth hormone elevation?

Works great for sleep. That's all that GH boosters do, they help you sleep.

Originally Posted by PushAndPull

Works great for sleep. That's all that GH boosters do, they help you sleep.

Gotcha. Well then you may want to lose the Benadryl, because certain sedating drugs actually interfere with the natural sleep cycle, and diphenhydramine in particular can decrease REM sleep. A majority of you daily growth hormone output occurs during REM sleep, so Benadryl may very well be actually *lowering* your GH levels.

Melatonin is probably smart, though. Anything that's merely conducive to natural sleep can't hurt. Sedatives, though, can.

I take melatonin, Valerian root and kava kava for sleep, they may help...

Originally Posted by oufinny

If you are insinuating that what was suggested are in some way unsafe, I believe you are sorely mistaken. Not that I am a huge fan of it, AppNut IGF-2 has been on the market for a long time and if it was not safe, people would have made that clear by now. As for the others mentioned, the same thing goes for them.

I should clarify. I did NOT insinuate that they are safe. My issue with proprietary blends are that they do not meet the needs for everyone. Many times they end up being a sugar pill for folks that are looking for "something" to help them in one or more areas.

I am cautious simply because throwing things into the mix can sometimes have undesirable d effects. Even if those effects are a loss of cash and minimal results.

Do NOT get offended and incite something on this thread. I'm open to opinions. I welcome them. But I only need CONSTRUCTIVE input. One reader could misconstrue what you wrote and take off on a tear. I'll have any discussion you'd like, just make sure that you read what I write and fully understand it before jumping to a conclusion. If I'm not clear, I apologize. Just ask for clarification first.

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Originally Posted by teezhay

Gotcha. Well then you may want to lose the Benadryl, because certain sedating drugs actually interfere with the natural sleep cycle, and diphenhydramine in particular can decrease REM sleep. A majority of you daily growth hormone output occurs during REM sleep, so Benadryl may very well be actually *lowering* your GH levels.

Melatonin is probably smart, though. Anything that's merely conducive to natural sleep can't hurt. Sedatives, though, can.

I'm going to agree with you. My position on medication and drugs are that they should be eliminated or greatly reduced. I do not think they as always as helpful as we'd like them to be. I feel that they have their place, but should always be a last resort. My order of preference is nutrition, herbal and then meds if needed.


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Originally Posted by teezhay

Gotcha. Well then you may want to lose the Benadryl, because certain sedating drugs actually interfere with the natural sleep cycle, and diphenhydramine in particular can decrease REM sleep. A majority of you daily growth hormone output occurs during REM sleep, so Benadryl may very well be actually *lowering* your GH levels.

Melatonin is probably smart, though. Anything that's merely conducive to natural sleep can't hurt. Sedatives, though, can.

I only use the Benadryl on the occasion that I have insomnia, and that's rare so i'm not really worried about it.

Cmon guys --- off-season GH inducing sleep coma protocol ---

4mg of periactin
500 mcg GHRP-6
1 mg Ketotifen
5 mg melatonin
1 scoop EndoAMP Max

Eat a massive meal 20 mins after ingesting the above and grow while you sleep....

(you just wont be oxidizing much fat since the meal pretty much cancelled that effect out lol)

-Matt

I find Ipamorelin to be the best peptide for sleep. Peps and HGH make me lethargic though. I do recall high dose phosphatidylcholine working well and giving me better sleep and more energy. Definitely renewed my CNS, I just wish it were available in bulk form and not miniscule mg doses.

Hmm... more for me to research. It sounds like there are lots of different combinations. How did you guys find these different ingredients? Recommended? Internet research?

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Originally Posted by emitecaps

I find Ipamorelin to be the best peptide for sleep. Peps and HGH make me lethargic though. I do recall high dose phosphatidylcholine working well and giving me better sleep and more energy. Definitely renewed my CNS, I just wish it were available in bulk form and not miniscule mg doses.

Have you ever tried EndoAMP max for the phospholipid complex????

-Matt

Originally Posted by Jimmyusa

I take melatonin, Valerian root and kava kava for sleep, they may help...

I love kava kava myself! :-D