I can say this IML Ph's are the best I've used. Msten will kick your butt and you will love it. Heavyiron knows a good bit so he def can help a lot. Just remember to check out their Cycle support supp to take along with it. The most popular latley is Msten, DMZ, but they have a whole bit of them! GL
Haven't all those actives been out for several years? Even msten which was supposedly in mass tabs though never really disclosed. Has there been any new chemical released in the past year or two? Maybe there's nothing legally left though so who knows.