i've been reading through the bodybuilding.com forum and they seem to love diesel fuel(DF) and diesel nos precursor.

DF is like a weight loss thermogenic like thing without ephedrine but it's supposed to work great. the ads suck though (sounds like muscletech) but from the people who used it, they seem to like it a lot. same with the NOS. it's kind of like NO2, NOX2 and those hemodilators but chuck diesel, who makes NOS, says that it's designed to do more than just give you the pump. the pump supposedly comes with eating more carbs and protein but besides that, it's there working so that you can grow. from what i've read so far, this stuff sounds great and chuck seems more than kind enough to answer questions.

my question is, have any of you tried this stuff? i'm looking into it because i wanted to try a NO product but i was afraid it would purely be for the pumps. please don't say "it's crap" or something like that if you haven't tried it. remember, supplements work for some and dont for others because of variables (we aren't all made the same and we all don't eat/train the same way). thanks in advanced.