Opinions on women taking Clenbutrx?

**butterfly** · 05-28-2003, 09:45 AM

Are there any negative side-effects for women taking Anti-Estrogenics?

Here's a description of the product...
http://www.1fast400.com/store/produc...roducts_id=258

Thanks!

**gopro** · 05-28-2003, 04:41 PM

VPXs Clenbutrx works especially well for women! I have seen no side effects aside from the basic jitters associated with E/C containing products.

**butterfly** · 05-29-2003, 02:13 PM

Thanks GP!!!

I really appreciate your response

**gopro** · 05-29-2003, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by butterfly
Thanks GP!!!

I really appreciate your response

Anytime...my pleasure

**Twin Peak** · 05-29-2003, 06:27 PM

GoPro is this an anti-e?

**david** · 05-29-2003, 06:39 PM

I think GP and I discussed this one time through PM's or elsewhere. To reiterate GP, even though the properties of isoflavones being the anti e, I take it that it's such a weak factor that it IS safe for women to use?

Upon my conversation with VPX and through the words of Jack by another, that there are no horrendous side effects or anything of that matter that women should be cautious of.

In other words, it's a powerful product and highly effective weight loss for both men and women. I've seen a lot of individuals especially women benefit from the liquid form!

B, are you considering trying it?

**dvlmn666** · 05-29-2003, 10:15 PM

I know about 3 girls who are taking this currently and they are having no problems what so ever. And they have tried almost all the ECA products out there on the market and tell me this works better than anything else they have tried.

**J'Bo** · 05-29-2003, 11:39 PM

really well i know one girl who took it and had a terrible time with it.....isnt it banned in Canadian comps?

**gopro** · 05-30-2003, 06:16 AM

The anti-estrogens in Clenbutrx are weak in their effect. Even so, a small amount of anti-e effect is a good thing for both men and women if your goal is hardness and less water retention (drug using women...even those that don't use steroids...love Nolvadex). Aside from that, Clenbutrx contains E/C, appetite supressants, and yohimbine among other things. Yohimbine is great for women. Its just a great overall fat burner. (I know for a fact that its Monica Brandt's favorite...she looks pretty good

)

**david** · 05-30-2003, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by J'Bo
really well i know one girl who took it and had a terrible time with it.....isnt it banned in Canadian comps?

Hmmnn..... can you elaborate on more of what a "terrible time" means and what was her training routine, diet and lifestyle. These do matter bc/ other elements play a huge factor on how Clen is going to react. Trust me on this one, I know!

**Twin Peak** · 05-30-2003, 08:03 AM

Yohimbine is also a sexual enhancer in women.

**J'Bo** · 05-30-2003, 08:06 AM

ok i am sold.

so would you still use an eca stack? or use instead? can you use during pre-comp. diet? any need for diuretics as well? and what brand do you suggest? doseage? gee i am greedy for info arent i

**Twin Peak** · 05-30-2003, 08:13 AM

If you are just looking for Y, 1fast400.com sells is own brand pretty damn cheap.

It can be used with or instead of an EC stack, but with, you should add doseage slowly to assess reaction.

It is not a dieuretic, but an alpha-2 receptor antagonist. Used in a localized gel, it can produce very nice spot reduction when on a diet.

**J'Bo** · 05-30-2003, 08:16 AM

awesome...i will pick some up today.

thanks tp.

i like the less water rention thang....cause i am holding water like a maniac.

**Twin Peak** · 05-30-2003, 08:25 AM

Less? If anything Y will make you retain a bit of water. Drop your salt a bit and add an herbal diuretic if you want.

**J'Bo** · 05-30-2003, 08:44 AM

gopro above says that clambutrex makes you hold LESS water...i am not gonna take anything that is gonna make me hold more water...cause i am freakin out about looking like a whale when i gotta get up on stage again in 15 days.

**david** · 05-30-2003, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by gopro
The anti-estrogens in Clenbutrx are weak in their effect. Even so, a small amount of anti-e effect is a good thing for both men and women if your goal is hardness and less water retention (drug using women...even those that don't use steroids...love Nolvadex). Aside from that, Clenbutrx contains E/C, appetite supressants, and yohimbine among other things. Yohimbine is great for women. Its just a great overall fat burner. (I know for a fact that its Monica Brandt's favorite...she looks pretty good

)

Since you brought it up, (yohimibe), through my own experience and the history of the herb it is known for arousement in males in particular. So how does this affect women? If anything??

**J'Bo** · 05-30-2003, 09:12 AM

yah cause i cant afford to be any more excited.....lack of booty makes for buying batteries in bulk.

doesnt matter anyways cause $220 a bottle is WAY too much.

**Twin Peak** · 05-30-2003, 09:19 AM

Yohimbine, is the active ingredient in Yohimbe.

Clenbutrx may make you hold less water, but Yohimbine causes retention.

I have heard it works for men as well (sexual stimulator) but works better for women.

**J'Bo** · 05-30-2003, 09:35 AM

thanks tp.

can't do the clem though. but i gotta alter something.

**ZECH** · 05-30-2003, 09:59 AM

I told you to try Taraxatone! It will get rid of the water!

**Jodi** · 05-30-2003, 10:15 AM

have heard it works for men as well (sexual stimulator) but works better for women.

If your talking about Yohimbe, I've only heard that its a stimulator for Men, not women. It won't hurt women and can be used for a fatloss aid but sexually it does nothing for women.

**Twin Peak** · 05-30-2003, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by Jodi
If your talking about Yohimbe, I've only heard that its a stimulator for Men, not women. It won't hurt women and can be used for a fatloss aid but sexually it does nothing for women.

Not true, generally. If you are referring to your own use, that could be true, as it does nothing for me either.

**Jodi** · 05-30-2003, 10:21 AM

Do a search on Yohimbe. Just about the only thing you'll find is that its a male stimulant.

**J'Bo** · 05-30-2003, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by dg806
I told you to try Taraxatone! It will get rid of the water!

cant get it here dg or else i would...dont have time to order it...just wait til next season now that i have the scoop on all the good supps.....holy hard butt

**Twin Peak** · 05-30-2003, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Jodi
Do a search on Yohimbe. Just about the only thing you'll find is that its a male stimulant.

Misinformation. Or lack of.

**Robboe** · 05-30-2003, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by J'Bo
gopro above says that clambutrex makes you hold LESS water...

The anti-e(s) and caffiene must be strong enough to stave off the water-retaining properties of the Y, but generally, Y HCL, orally and especially topically, causes water retention.

Also, on a side note, carbs + Y is a pointless combination, since insulin will win any battle, so using it before or between meals is a good idea. This effects Y's lipolytic properties, but I'm not sure whether it will effect the sexual enhancing properties of the compound. Try it on an empty stomach and see what happens.

**Twin Peak** · 05-30-2003, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Jodi
Do a search on Yohimbe. Just about the only thing you'll find is that its a male stimulant.

Jodi, see my new thread on this.

**ZECH** · 05-30-2003, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by J'Bo
cant get it here dg or else i would...dont have time to order it...just wait til next season now that i have the scoop on all the good supps.....holy hard butt

Mike can get it to you intwo days. You could have already had it if you had ordered it! www.1fast400.com

**J'Bo** · 05-30-2003, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by dg806
Mike can get it to you intwo days. You could have already had it if you had ordered it! www.1fast400.com

well who is mike? and there are detours on that page...plus its not gonna do much in 12 days....and what are we talkin about again? clem or yohimbeeny? cause i am not takin anything that may increase my sexual appetite....or i may be arrested for humpin mens legs

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