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Old 07-02-2003, 09:19 PM   #1
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Question about 1-AD from a newbie.

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Hi.

I registered here just recently because it seems the knowledge and depth of information in this place is just what I'm looking for.

I searched around for an answer I wanted to a certain question, but I couldn't find a good portion of them grouped together, so I'll just ask here. I hope you don't mind.

I am prone to acne on my face and back. I want to do a cycle of 1-AD coupled with a new bench program I'm trying, but I fear my acne will increase. It would be great if someone who is in my shoes could give me an account of their cycle of 1-AD, and the acne side effects that accompanied it.

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Old 07-02-2003, 09:28 PM   #2
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Welcome to IM! May I suggest running a search for 1AD. There is tons of information here, if you can figure it all out. GoPro, TP and DG are some of the people you can ask here re: PH.



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One of the nice things about 1-testosterone (that's what 1-AD converts to) is that it is an anabolic hormone, but it does not have the androgenic characteristics that go along with testosterone.

so, the answer is no it will not affect your acne.



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One of the nice things about 1-testosterone (that's what 1-AD converts to) is that it is an anabolic hormone, but it does not have the androgenic characterisitcs that go along with testosterone.

so, the answer is no it will not affect your acne.
Awesome.

Thank you, Prince.

Do you think I should give it a shot? I've been on a glutamine/creatine stack for about two months now, and I've seen decent results, but I'm looking to take it to the next level.



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Not exactly true Prince. Some Test does convert back into DHT, and as side-effects of androgenic substances, that includes acne.
For instance taking a DHT precursor or metabolite like 1AD( A DHT derivative if you will that entails a very high androgenic potential)will stop estrogen formation. In fact there is evidence that they may even prevent aromatisation from other prohormones. This means the risk of estrogen related side-effects is non-existent. By using such products however your androgen response increases drastically. Meaning in order to stop estrogenic side-effects, you increase the risk of androgenic side-effects.

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Not exactly true Prince. Some Test does convert back into DHT, and as side-effects of androgenic substances, that includes acne.
For instance taking a DHT precursor or metabolite like 1AD( A DHT derivative if you will that entails a very high androgenic potential)will stop estrogen formation. In fact there is evidence that they may even prevent aromatisation from other prohormones. This means the risk of estrogen related side-effects is non-existent. By using such products however your androgen response increases drastically. Meaning in order to stop estrogenic side-effects, you increase the risk of androgenic side-effects.
I'm trying to make sense of what you said here, but a lot of it is gibberish to me.


I've read online reviews and evaluations of 1-AD and it seems like they have made every effort possible to avoid estrogenic side-effects. Are you saying that at the expense of prevention of estrogenic effects, you will receive the risk of androgenic side effects, like acne and hair loss?

This is the website I was reading through, check it out.

http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/pr...de-effects.htm

This site seems to be user oriented, and not for the sole purpose of advertisement, so I trust it.



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Not exactly true Prince. Some Test does convert back into DHT, and as side-effects of androgenic substances, that includes acne.
For instance taking a DHT precursor or metabolite like 1AD( A DHT derivative if you will that entails a very high androgenic potential)will stop estrogen formation. In fact there is evidence that they may even prevent aromatisation from other prohormones. This means the risk of estrogen related side-effects is non-existent. By using such products however your androgen response increases drastically. Meaning in order to stop estrogenic side-effects, you increase the risk of androgenic side-effects.

The molecular structure of 1-Testosterone indicates that it is a highly evolved hormone similar to Primobolan but delivering a much more potent anabolic effect similar to Parabolan, Charting steroid hormones has allowed us to predict the kind of effect that a particular prosteroid will exert on the human body. Additionally, medical literature further confirms the role and potential of 1-Test™ as a potent anabolic agent for fat loss & muscle growth. Charting methods reveal that 1-Testosterone is 5alpha-reduced androgen or downstream DHT derivative. Therefore, it cannot aromatize to estrogenic compounds. This is hugely important because AAS (anabolic/androgenic steroid) conversion to estrogen is responsible for a myriad of side effects. Bitch Tits (gynocomastia), hypertension, water retention, prostate enlargement etc…are just a few of the problems caused from steroids like Dianabol, Anadrol and Deca (to a lesser extent) that aromatize to estrogen. 1-Testosterone’s Parabolan-like dominant anabolic punch without estrogen related side effects positions it as the king of steroids and consequently, the most prized choice for bodybuilders and strength athletes.



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If you want more info on 1-AD and its potential side effects, you should check out www.ergopharm.com which are the most popular makers of 1-AD. Some effects include hair loss and acne, but it depends on the individual's genetics.



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my above post was taken directly from Ergopharm's website.



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If you want more info on 1-AD and its potential side effects, you should check out www.ergopharm.com which are the most popular makers of 1-AD. Some effects include hair loss and acne, but it depends on the individual's genetics.
Thanks, I think I found what I'm looking for.



What are the possible side effects of 1-AD?

Side effects from 1-AD are not serious, however several have been reported and you should be aware of these.



stomach upset - this can be relieved by consuming the dose with a meal

irritation while urinating - this can be avoided by making sure plenty of fluids are consumed

lowered libido - this can be partially avoided by stacking the 1-AD with a 4-AD product (i.e. androspray)

lethargy - this can pe partially avoided by stacking the 1-AD with a 4-AD product (i.e. androspray)

skin rash - this happens to a very small percentage of users and usually during the hot weather months

increased appetite - this is just a response to your body wanting to grow

insomnia - This can be partially avoided by taking your last dose earlier in the day

acne - this is an androgenic side effect. Wash well and use a cleanser like plexion

acceleration of male pattern baldness - in susceptible individuals this can be a concern. If this runs in your family be aware of this

I don't think I'm too concerned with this. I think I'll just go ahead and try it.



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From the ergopharm website. I clicked on the 1-AD FAQ.



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Prince, your quote is exactly what my post was saying. In absence of estrogen, you raise the androgenic effects!



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Therefore, it cannot aromatize to estrogenic compounds. This is hugely important because AAS (anabolic/androgenic steroid) conversion to estrogen is responsible for a myriad of side effects. Bitch Tits (gynocomastia), hypertension, water retention, prostate enlargement etc…are just a few of the problems caused from steroids like Dianabol, Anadrol and Deca (to a lesser extent) that aromatize to estrogen.



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In fact there is evidence that they may even prevent aromatisation from other prohormones. This means the risk of estrogen related side-effects is non-existent. By using such products however your androgen response increases drastically. Meaning in order to stop estrogenic side-effects, you increase the risk of androgenic side-effects.



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in a few years, i'm sure a virtually side effect free product will be invented that almost everyone can take. it's just a matter of time before these products become safe.we just have to keep learning about the human body



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