Thread: 1-Test side effects? D-Bol? 1-AD?

Then ask.

Don't make uninformed statements. If you know of no specific OTC "toxic" substance, don't state they exist.

The man with an edge.I'm referring to many different substances that can be toxic to the liver and have other side effects from what I here.Dianabol,Anadrol,Primobolan,Stanozolol,
Oxandrolone,Flourxymestrone Etc.Etc.
Apparently you have alot of knowledge and experience so what do you think? Any of these potentially toxic in your mind?

I have no experience with any of those substances, as they are all illicit anabolic steroids.

As well, "toxic" in the abstract is an unclear term to me.

Further, assuming they are toxic, they are not OTC, which was your initial statement.

That said, edge is good.

Did I say O T C?? I'm referring to legal,barely legal,and illegal whatever compounds.OTC may be illegal tomorrow.

Twin,I agree there's alot of mis info out there.Problem is we confuse pro hormones etc. with being similar to the hard stuff then everyone feels that if they load too long on a cycle they may end up with a by pass op etc. So out of lack of clear info and knowledge we go to a site like SDI Labs or buy the Pinnacle "crap". But I have gotten alot of good feedback and will go for the 1-ad asap.Appreciate all you guys here.Thanks

Oh I forgot,Ah! Life on the edge isn't so bad.At least we are alive and Rockin.Just gotta keep pushin to the next level whatever it takes.

Originally posted by kdwa1
Dianabol,Anadrol,Primobolan,Stanozolol,
Oxandrolone,Flourxymestrone Etc.Etc.

All of these are illegal steriods and are 17 alkaloids(meaning this prevents them from being broken down in the liver, and thus why it is so harsh on the liver!) All oral steriods are bad on the liver. Some maybe more than others.

Yep! 17aa compared to 17aa rule says, 50mg dbol is as toxic as 50mg anadrol. But anadrol is often used up to 150mg ED because it binds poorly to the receptor sites compared to dbol, so its is labeled as "the killer oral," Dan Duchaine said "gain 60 pounds in a month, and drop dead." Of course blood pressure would be so insane at that point, that is going to be a HUGE factor as well.

From what DG posted though the legal (OTC) orals are safe.

From my reading, Dave Palumbo says that an average cycle containing oral steroids is about as hard on the body as 2-3 beers a day, I dont know how true that is because SOME people have had issues especially when going long term or predisposed to liver problems. Without a blood test I dont think you truly know the condition of your liver before you start something, wether you have alcoholism in your past or not.

A friend of mine lost her mother a bit over a year ago, due to cirrhosis of the liver, yet she didn't drink. It was discovered she had fatty deposits surrounding the liver, I am not sure why this was a problem but it was. This person found out from the doctor after some testing that she was born with the same predisposition to fatty deposits around the liver. I believe her mother was only 66 years old, when she went downhill she went fast.

They will still put undue hardship on your liver. I get my liver emzymes check every 6 months. Right now they are still 100%. you need to cycle PH's and let your liver recoup along with your receptors!

I know we really can't compare hard core roids with pro hormones but they still have an anabolic effect which we desire so of course they need to be cycled to give the liver a cleasnsing out.Since weré on the liver,how about the heavy protein loads? I do about 1.5-2.0 gms per lb.of body weight per day maybe more.Anyone with info on the max? Also whether we are on hormones and or heavy protein etc. is it really a concern if we load the water? Finding the balance and getting the results seems to be the main question here. Anything good for post 1-ad cycle?Thanks again

Natural hormonal levels are much more an issue I think than the liver, being on oral PH or steroids permanently while not a good idea for the cleansing system of the body, there is much more involved which would reduce your gains and effect you in much more drastic ways - not that dying is a good thing, but there is more involved here.

.66 x bodyweight in pounds = ounces to consume daily is the "rule" I've heard for water consumption.

So for me .66 x 231 pounds = 152.46 ounces, 128 oz in a gallon.

Hey guy's just thought I'd chime in here, this is mr.universe@universalkits.com one of the new sponsors here at iron mag and I have to say this is some good info. At my site we carry quite a few Pro-Hormones and from experience nothing works as well as good gear but....... for the money and legal reasons if taken correctly (stacked) you can get phenominal results with Pro-H's. Do your homework and if anyone has any questions about our stuff drop me a line.

Best,
mr.universe

Interesting,but it still may need to be adjusted depending on the season i.e.dehydration etc. I usually do about a gallon per day and weigh about 180Lb. and up it in the summer.Also really into chlorella.

Hey everyone. Alot of good info here. SDI Labs was mentioned earlier in the thread. I too purchased D-Bol from these folks, but I have actually made some very good gains. I know supplements vary from user to user, but is it possible that the active ingredient, Methadrostenol, is actaully effiective? Just curious to get some opinions on this. On a related note.....I went to Mr. Universal's site and looked at the P-GH there. Anyone heard tell of results from this type of "steroid"? Any help would be appreciated.