What should I use to gain muscle?

**nectron101** · 08-08-2003, 04:48 PM

I'm trying to lose fat & gain muscle at the same time..
I'm using Xenadrine EFX " tomorrow my first day" using it..
I need help learning about muscle gain supplements, I'm actually looking for something that make my workouts more effective to the muscles, without screwing up my "weight loss" goal..

If it's a shake, PLEASE mention supplements with good flavor, I tried Xapp & Ultimate Grape, both suck, I can't even swallow them!

Any ideas?

**Prince** · 08-08-2003, 04:49 PM

What is your diet like?

**nectron101** · 08-08-2003, 04:58 PM

Fat free milk
Fiber cerials "low fat"
Packed tuna "no oil, just water inside"
Grilled chiken breasts
Oranges
Apples
Diet coke "very few times a month"
eggs "no yellows, just the whites"
grilled fish
boiled shrimp
salad "no oil"

but mostly fat free milk+cerials anytime of the day

and by the way I smoke ciggz & Arabian Dry Apples " hobly bubbly"

oh, and I don't want something that (FILLS) my muscles with water I need REAL muslce.

Thanks!

**Prince** · 08-08-2003, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by nectron101
oh, and I don't want something that (FILLS) my muscles with water I need REAL muslce.

your body is made up of 70% water.

**nectron101** · 08-08-2003, 05:06 PM

Ok! I'm a newbie..
I don't know a lot about body things..

I just need something to help me grow muscles faster..

**nectron101** · 08-08-2003, 05:09 PM

I actually heard that many supplements fill the muscles with water instead of real muscle gaining...
and when you stop using them, the muscles get smaller

**nectron101** · 08-09-2003, 04:09 AM

So, are there any supplements that increase muscle gain by increasing the effectiveness of workouts?

**Mudge** · 08-09-2003, 08:36 AM

Proper sleep patterns, and diet. Make sure you have a good amount of energy when you go to the gym, so you dont get tired half way through, so some oatmeal 30-60 minutes prior would be good.

**Prince** · 08-09-2003, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by nectron101
I actually heard that many supplements fill the muscles with water instead of real muscle gaining...
and when you stop using them, the muscles get smaller

Creatine and even Glutamine cause an increase in intra-muscular water retention, and yes if you stop taking them you will lose the water weight.

If you do not consume enough calories you will shrink as well, if you stop training with heavy weight you will shrink also.

There is no quick way to gain muscle, it takes proper diet & nutrition, dedication, and proper training, and most importantly patience.

Rather than spending your time, energy and money looking for a magical supplement (which does not exist) spend it on learning how to eat and train correctly.

You really should read this e-book >> http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=18311

**nectron101** · 08-09-2003, 09:22 AM

Uha!

Thanks for the replies, just one more thing...

Does smoking affect muscle gain or fat loss ?

**ZECH** · 08-09-2003, 09:58 AM

Nothing but hard work will build muscles! And unless you go the illegal route and take steriods, there is no FAST way. It will take years! Quit being in a hurry!

**derekisdman** · 08-09-2003, 09:59 AM

Don't smoke. If your already smoking then stop. That's all you need to know.

**nectron101** · 08-09-2003, 10:05 AM

I can stop smoking without any problims, I don't really believe that quitting is hard, it's all psychological shit..

But if it's not going to slow my muscle growth, I won't quit till I get married, lol!

**nectron101** · 08-09-2003, 10:11 AM

oh!
I don't like using steroids, I think it's hard shit drugz!

What do these supps do?
1- Creatine.
2- Whey Protien.
4- 1-AD.

Thanks for all the replies!

**oaktownboy** · 08-09-2003, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by nectron101
I can stop smoking without any problims, I don't really believe that quitting is hard, it's all psychological shit..

But if it's not going to slow my muscle growth, I won't quit till I get married, lol!

or until your lungs collapse....

**nectron101** · 08-09-2003, 10:13 AM

Heh! looooooooool

Thank god I don't smoke weed!

They should sew 2PAC for advertising about Weed in his albums, sometimes I think about smoking some, then I try to forget about it, I'm a good guy!

**Prince** · 08-09-2003, 10:22 AM

Why in the world would you want to smoke in the first place?

It's unhealthy, it's offensive, it's expensive, it makes you stink, your breath smells like an ash tray. I cannot see one reason why anyone would want to partake in such a disgusting habit.

**nectron101** · 08-09-2003, 10:29 AM

Uha!
That's a question my friends and I "smokers gang" we still don't have an answer to.. so there is no answer for that question.

**Prince** · 08-09-2003, 10:44 AM

Sure there is an answer: DON'T SMOKE! it's stupid.

**Mudge** · 08-09-2003, 01:23 PM

If your body is busy fighting off attacks on the immune system from the poisin your putting in your lungs, also affecting your ability to take in oxygen, I think the answer is obvious. You are also taking in particles of heavy metal from the air that hits the tip of the cigarette, which is hot enough to melt said particles floating in the air.

Do you picture standing over a campfire breathing in smoke, a good thing? I dont see how anyone in the world ever saw smoking as something that would not affect health, even if you discount the chemicals they put in the cigarettes.

**nectron101** · 08-10-2003, 08:20 AM

Still didn't get an answer!!

What do these supps do?
1- Creatine.
2- Whey Protien.
4- 1-AD.

Thanks for all the replies!

**Shmoo** · 08-10-2003, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by nectron101
I can stop smoking without any problims, I don't really believe that quitting is hard, it's all psychological shit..

But if it's not going to slow my muscle growth, I won't quit till I get married, lol!

If it is easy for you to quit smoking then why are you still smoking?

**Mudge** · 08-10-2003, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by nectron101
I don't really believe that quitting is hard, it's all psychological shit..

Isn't that part of quitting?

**nectron101** · 08-10-2003, 02:46 PM

Smoking makes me relax, I like it...

Please guys, answer my questions I'm a bigenner

**ArduousMeister** · 08-10-2003, 02:51 PM

I think what everyone is trying to say is that there is no magic pill! Eat right, train hard, rest hard.... with time you will get bigger and stronger.

**Twin Peak** · 08-10-2003, 03:03 PM

This is an amusing thread, on multiple levels.

**Rocco32** · 08-10-2003, 03:10 PM

I agree with TP

**nectron101** · 08-10-2003, 03:47 PM

Thanks for all the replies!

**Prince** · 08-10-2003, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by nectron101
Still didn't get an answer!!

What do these supps do?
1- Creatine.
2- Whey Protien.
4- 1-AD.

Thanks for all the replies!

1- Creatine. >> http://www.ironmagazine.com/review11.html

2- Whey Protien. >> http://www.ironmagazine.com/review18.html

4- 1-AD. >> http://ergopharm.com/product_info.php?productID=2

**oaktownboy** · 08-10-2003, 08:21 PM

how about eating like a madman?

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