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08-12-2003, 11:37 AM #1Registered User
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4-AD with 1-AD for stack
I am currently taking my first prohormone cycle. I am taking ErgoPahrm 1-AD 300mg a day. 2nd week plenty of added streangth. I want to stack the remaining 4 weeks with 4-AD. Could someone recommend the right 4-AD for this stack and possibly dosages. I am looking for a good 10lb mass gain.
Also. I am 30, 225lbs, 6'4". Currently Low bodyfat
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08-12-2003, 11:59 AM #2Founder of GOSB SUPER MODERATOR
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Anyone have any experience with stacking ErgoPahrm 1-AD with VPX 4-Test?
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08-12-2003, 12:44 PM #4Founder of GOSB SUPER MODERATOR
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The 4 hydroxy-test is being talked about giving lean gains. With 1-ad you are already getting that. 4-ad will add bulk. It depends on what you want.
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If you want mass like you stated, the 4/ad will suit you better!
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I think he meant VPX 4-test cyp aka 4-ad.
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08-12-2003, 01:10 PM #7Founder of GOSB SUPER MODERATOR
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??? That is too new..not many people know of that yet?
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The cypionated ph's have been out for a while now. It is the 4-hydroxytest that is new.
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08-12-2003, 01:25 PM #9Registered User
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One of my gym associates has put on 12lbs in two weeks stacking 1-TEST and 4-TEST by VPX. I just cant find any solid proof online on the validity of this product. It worked for him...i have seen it. Of course he could be juicing too
1-AD definitely works but I have read a lot about the added benefit and gains from 4-AD. Any good oral products out there? mag-10? 4-AD stack by ErgoPharm? Anyone have experience with those?
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Mag-10 is decent, but way over priced. Ergo puts out Androdiol 300. You need high doses to see efects from oral 4-ad. I would go with VPX Syngex1(1-test/4-ad) or Primotest from LMR. I just started a cycle of LMR Primotest(1-test prop) and AMR Decatest(4-ad/19nor) today.
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One guy here at VPX...a former juicer...just finished an 8 week cycle of JUST 1-Test cyp and added 20 lbs! No joke, no hype! He doesn't like the way 4-AD makes him feel so he didn't stack the two. I can only imagine if he did.
I think his results were EXTRAordinary, but still, pretty damn cool to get even half that!
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I'm a little past 2 weeks on 1-test by VPX and 4-ad by biotest. So far I'm not impressed with them. I've also changed my diet about the same time too (cut out all sugars) so I don't know. I want to try the 1-ad next cycle.
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