Thread: A note about ErgoPharms Sculpt

Anyone trying this? I am rather curious.

Me too. With DMSO I don't see how it can be site specific?

Admittedly, I am not up on this as I'd like to be. What are the intended areas of application for it? Chest fat? Where else?

Not sure? All the writeup says is topical fat loss.
Writeup is on 1fast's site.

I saw, but everyone is saying anti-gyno.

I am guessing its generically applicable, with a focus on gyno.

I am curious to hear how it stacks up to Lipoderm-Y.

Maybe Mike can chime in~

I have never encountered data showing DMSO to localize delivery.

Pat stated that their hope/theory is that it will speed the actives through the dermis (which contains the dermal microvasculature that takes up actives, systemically, before it reaches circulation).

I agree completely with this approach, but the anecdotal feedback I have always heard with DMSO (generally, in regard to Fina) is that it causes noticeable systemic/CNS effects very quickly (like 30-60 minutes), so I wonder if it might speed on through the target tissues, as well.

Feedback should answer this pretty quickly.

Or Par!! TY! I thought the exact same thing about rapid absorption into circulation also. I have used it with 1-test and 4/ad and thought it did help absorption.

I am currently using ab-solved so it will be interesting to see how the comparisons go.

maybe I am off track here, but isnt this going to make you smell like regular DMSO would? I understand that its not going to smell, but when it get broken down are you going to give off that sulphury garlicky smell?

Depends on the percentage of dmso.

They have said it is odorless -- I am very curious to see widespread feedback in this regard, as I have used an odorless DMSO (could stick your nose right up to it and not smell anything), and I had a friend walk into my apartment and the first thing he said was "using DMSO, huh..?)

dimethylsulfoxide aka DMSO. Isn't this the stuff they use to get as a byproduct from paper pulp processing and used it as an anti-inflamatory for horses and livestock?

A full ingredient list for Skulpt, from the label, as 1st posted by intv on AM's board:

Originally posted by intv
Sure, the side of the label reads:

Active Ingredients:
Yohimbine, Octopamine, Theophyllamine, Estrogen Suppression Complex (3,6,17-Androstenedione, 4-Hydroxyandrostendione).

Other Ingredients:
Dimethylsulfoxide USP grade, 2-Propanol, Water, Menthol, Para-Aminobenzoic Acid, Sodium Metabisulfite.

Originally posted by Par Deus
They have said it is odorless --

Supposedly it is the USP Grade DMSO that circumvents the odor, as the claim is that the impurities found in the lower grade DMSO is what actually causes the negative side effects (skin irritation, body odor, foul breath), and not the DMSO itself.

Originally posted by Par Deus
I am very curious to see widespread feedback in this regard,

Agreed. It is the user feedback which will prove this to be the case or not. I have already read feedback that suggests Skulpt stains the skin an orange-ish color in the applied area (as well as the hands, if gloves are not used).

Originally posted by OceanDude
dimethylsulfoxide aka DMSO. Isn't this the stuff they use to get as a byproduct from paper pulp processing and used it as an anti-inflamatory for horses and livestock?

Yep! The USP is suppose to be odorless. Very expensive also.

Originally posted by ShadowJack
Supposedly it is the USP Grade DMSO that circumvents the odor, as the claim is that the impurities found in the lower grade DMSO is what actually causes the negative side effects (skin irritation, body odor, foul breath), and not the DMSO itself.



Agreed. It is the user feedback which will prove this to be the case or not. I have already read feedback that suggests Skulpt stains the skin an orange-ish color in the applied area (as well as the hands, if gloves are not used).

SJ, have you used DMSO in homebrews for systemic absorbtion?

If so in what percentage?

Originally posted by Twin Peak
SJ, have you used DMSO in homebrews for systemic absorbtion?

Absolutely. Not USP Grade though; didn't spring for it, as it was about 10x the cost of technical grade when I looked (for 8oz.)

Originally posted by Twin Peak
If so in what percentage?

I have mixed up topicals with DMSO at 10%, 15%, and 20%.

• 1) At 20%, garlic stench (from both body odor and bad breath) is constant and very noticeable. To the point where it is mostly unworkable when around other people. The skin irritation from 20% DMSO is pretty bad, as well. A 20% DMSO formula combined with 1-t makes for a very burning experience. Not recommended.
  
• 2) At 15%, the odor is not as bad (or consistent), in my experience. It is more faintly noticeable at times, but other times, it is not noticeable. The odor kinda "comes and goes" if you know what I mean. I don't really get the foul breath from 15% DMSO, just some occasional (garlic) body odor. Note, that this is for me; I have read other users reports that say 15% DMSO is too much and the odor is un-manageable, so it will be slightly different for everyone.
  
  The skin irritation is not as bad at 15% either. It doesn't bother me at all actually, as my skin is not overly sensitive. But I apply A LOT of topicals (all year long - one or another, or multiple), so my skin is very accustomed to topical administration and does not irritate easily.
  
• 3) At 10%, I notice no bad side effects from DMSO at all. No skin irritation, body odor, or bad breath. This is the level I would recommend most people use, unless experienced with DMSO usage, and a little more resistant to the side effects. Then 15% could be tried, which is the % DMSO I now continually use, after trying all three in the past.

Just a comment from a casual observer - is perhaps the efficacy of the delivery agent a function of bad smell? In other words, at the recommended 10% and no noticable smell is it even getting there?

Originally posted by OceanDude
Just a comment from a casual observer - is perhaps the efficacy of the delivery agent a function of bad smell? In other words, at the recommended 10% and no noticable smell is it even getting there?

Oh yeah! The ph is absorbed through the SC. The dmso gives it better penetration capability! Most formulas have D-Limonene which has a strong citrus smell and covers up dmso @ 10%