VPX Methoxygen???????

**Gatti** · 08-19-2003, 10:10 AM

VPX Methoxtgen??????

Has anybody tried VPX Methoxygen, i am having OK results wondered if anybody had any feedback???

Cheers

**gopro** · 08-19-2003, 02:49 PM

This is a great non-hormonal anabolic/anti-catabolic supplement. To be very honest about it I feel that some people make really nice gains on it, while others do not notice much. Strange, but true. This is an excellent product to use, if you respond to it, after a PH cycle, along with 6-OXO or Aromadex.

**Twin Peak** · 08-19-2003, 03:23 PM

What are the ingredients and the mechanism of action?

**ZECH** · 08-20-2003, 07:05 AM

cough cough..................................

I have to call your bluff on this one GP. Where has 5-methyl-7-hydroxy- Isoflavone Methylcarbonate been shown to be anabolic/anti-catabolic ?

**Gatti** · 08-20-2003, 07:08 AM

OK, so what do you suggest as asubstitute ??????

**ZECH** · 08-20-2003, 07:15 AM

What's your goal?

**Gatti** · 08-20-2003, 07:19 AM

I have been out of the gym for 1 and half years after getting married and wife poping out a little bambino.

Looking to maximise, strength and muscle, not looking to bloat on creatine or gain water retension??

What say you.

**ZECH** · 08-20-2003, 07:30 AM

Not saying that Methoxy does not work, but I believe it is to such a small extent, that your money could be spent on better things like a good whey isolate or casein/egg protein. A good lean strength gainer would be 1-test.
http://www.1fast400.com/product_info...roducts_id=428
http://www.1fast400.com/product_info...roducts_id=429
http://www.1fast400.com/product_info...products_id=89

**Gatti** · 08-20-2003, 07:37 AM

Cheers DG, i like the advice.

**OceanDude** · 08-20-2003, 12:05 PM

GP - do you recommend pro hormones? Just curious since I think I am going to start a round of 6-oxo.

On the fat loss front I have had good results with 7-keyto based products as well as Hot Roxx (but I had allergic reactions during morning doses). I am interested in experimenting with a new formulation if any can recommend one. I might consider Methoxtgen if I can get a little smarter about it. Right now I am inclined to go back to 7-keyto again now that I have cycled out of the fat burners for 4 weeks.

**Twin Peak** · 08-20-2003, 12:34 PM

What 7-keto products have you used. Generally, it has rather poor oral bioavailability. You are using Ab solved no? You do realize the active in that yes?

**OceanDude** · 08-20-2003, 01:29 PM

TP - I was previously using one of Beverly International's 7-keyto based products Muscle Lean (http://www.beverlyintl.com/fat-burne...-musclean.html) as well as another one prior to that (now I can't recall which one - got it at gnc).

As of now I am only using ab-solved. But I also think I am going to start taking heavy amino acid suppliment to kick it up a notch based on l-carnitine called lean-out (http://www.beverlyintl.com/fat-burners-lean-out.html) .

**Twin Peak** · 08-20-2003, 01:34 PM

ALCAR, acetle-L-Carnatine, is fat superior to L-carnatine, and you can get it pure and cheaply at http://www.beyond-a-century.com/

If you want a good BCAA product, I love ICE from Xtreme.

**OceanDude** · 08-20-2003, 01:42 PM

OK thanks - I'll have to look into that. I pop high quality aminos every 5 minutes while I work out and find BI's aminos to be very high quality and about as potent as are commercially available.

I just ordered the l-carnatine mix for the fat loss synergy so as soon as I am through this cycle I will look into ALCAR.

Appreciate the info.

**Gatti** · 08-20-2003, 03:01 PM

I heard of guys taking 6-OXO as a seperate supp, not in conjunction with PH's, have you been???

If so have you had good results

**OceanDude** · 08-20-2003, 05:34 PM

No gatti, I am going to do only a 6-oxo cycle without PH.

**gopro** · 08-20-2003, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by dg806
cough cough..................................

I have to call your bluff on this one GP. Where has 5-methyl-7-hydroxy- Isoflavone Methylcarbonate been shown to be anabolic/anti-catabolic ?

There is alot of literature that supports methoxyflavone as a mild muscle builder and anti-catabolic. But that doesn't really matter to me. I am into the "real world" as you know and I saw pretty decent results while on it. There is a natural pro bodybuilder here that stays on it year around and loves the stuff. We have had about 80% positive feedback for it at VPX. And finally, I have several clients that it worked well for. As a replecement for prohormones it would be lousy, but for someone that wants a "hormone free" muscle builder, it is a good choice.

**david** · 08-20-2003, 09:38 PM

I noticed a significant difference during my off cycle of "stuff" and jumping into 10 weeks of Methoxygen! Certainly wt/ Methoxygen, it didn't feel the same, so I will not bore anyone with this but allow the discussion to go further "scientific" wise!

But as user, I loved it!

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