Thread: 4-Test VPX Wow

Well that was a pathetic post! Do you work for a rival supplement company or something? Or, you simply "don't want it bad enough" to withstand a bad taste for 2 seconds!? C'mon, Liquid Clenbutrx tastes like crap too, but people buy it over and over....and over again because it WORKS!

Wonder why it tastes so much worse than the 1-Test.

Dont get your gym shorts in a wad. I dont work for any competitors. I do however spend plenty of money as a consumer buying supplements and am a dedicated bodybuilder with proven results using many quality products. Therefore when I posted this comment in the forum it was intended to INFORM others who might consider trying the VPX 4-TEST product. I wish I had been informed before I dropped the cash on buying this garbage. Even if I gain 15lbs of extra mass from taking this crap I will never use it again due to the god aweful taste.

And....it is pretty obvious from your many posts all over the internet bodybuilding world that you are a Major Promotor of VPX products. More power to you. For everyone else not affiliated with VPX, I simply say beware of the NASTY taste of this stuff. There are alternatives by many many other companies and they are legal for now.

Actually, he is more than a promoter, he is an employee, but from the sound of your post you probably know that.

Anyway, GP did seem a bit defensive, it wasn't like you were pushing any other specific product.

Taste is subjective. I could care less how something taste if it works. Try using ph's in capsule form. When they fail to give the desired results you will wish you had toughed it out.

There is no difference in capsule or liquid. Both are oral and pass through the liver where they are broken down.

Originally posted by dg806
There is no difference in capsule or liquid. Both are oral and pass through the liver where they are broken down.

I agree they both go through the liver, but the first pass is greatly improved with liposomes. I base this on the fact that 50mg of liposomal 1-test has given me much better results than 6oomg of 1-ad and 225mg of 1-test ethergels. Something has to be going on.

Maybe true! But why can they not put it in an ethergel like Molecular??

Hate to have stirred a few of you fellows up. My personal verdict is still out on the effectiveness of this product. By the way I am and plan to continue to use the product I bought, but I will not use it again due to the taste AND lack of information available about the quality of the composition. Tons of beefed up marketing fluff by the makers ....but who believes that stuff.

Hmmnn... I've tried VPX's product along with competitors (IDS, BEAST etc.) and never did I take a product and say, "this stuff is supposed to taste great and not like crap." Personally, with the 1 Test and it's results that I got in strength 85 lbs DB presses to 135 lbs DB presses for 10 reps seems to be incredible to me!

I don't care what something tastes like... what matters to me is, effectiveness.

I don't work for VPX but I have tried enough other stuff to realize what is crappy or not. Promotion.... ?? whatever!

Here's a good promotion. Speed Stack (ABB) blows away Therma Speed (Worldwide) or any other drink energy wise. As for the taste... I think Speed Stack is crappy but I keep buying it over anything else!

OK. For all you ladies that have issues with my taste comment. You may want to consider picking up some clomid or OXO6......cause you sound like your estrogen levels are up. PMS maybe.......who knows.


As for the 135lb dumbell prop to yourself. Bud you better get to work. I wouldnt be bragging about 135lb dumbell presses. If thats all you can wimp up you need to try something that works.
We would laugh at your weak self in my gym.

Deadlift, you don't think that is a little conceited? I think David was just trying to prove a point about the 1-test - not bragging.

Originally posted by deadlift
OK. For all you ladies that have issues with my taste comment. You may want to consider picking up some clomid or OXO6......cause you sound like your estrogen levels are up. PMS maybe.......who knows.


As for the 135lb dumbell prop to yourself. Bud you better get to work. I wouldnt be bragging about 135lb dumbell presses. If thats all you can wimp up you need to try something that works.
We would laugh at your weak self in my gym.

I stand corrected!

EACH hand (135 lbs DB's)

Sorry for the misunderstanding there!

So, 270 lbs total... 10 reps... no yelling/screaming and controlled movements.

I think deadlift's comment was uncalled for, though a tad funny.

David, while your first comment was not bragging your second was.

I'd not be that impressed with myself if all I could do was 135 pound DB presses, but that's just me. Particularly if I was your size.

I would happy with myself if I could do 135's at my size!

Happy with oneself, and overtly bragging even when antagonized are two different things.

Besides, its all about perspective.

As well, I think deadlift was just letting off some steam for feeling ganged up on just because he doesn't like the taste of a product.

Hell, if something tasted extremely bad to me, I'd not use it if I couldn't mask the flavor.

Oh, I am such a sissy boy.

I can understand that. But in all honesty, I'm like David. And I think most bodybuilders are. I would take anything, regardless of taste if I knew without a doubt that it would produce results. Chug it, whatever. It will only taste bad for a minute or so.

And you have every right to do so. No need for an ad hominem attack on a consumer who chooses not to.

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Actually, he is more than a promoter, he is an employee, but from the sound of your post you probably know that.

Anyway, GP did seem a bit defensive, it wasn't like you were pushing any other specific product.

Please TP...Leptigen is the worst tasting, worst smelling thing on the planet earth!! If someone posted something similar about this very effective product, you would feel the same way! Not out of being defensive, but out of the ridiculousness of someone not using an awesome, result producing product, because of two seconds of a bad taste in your mouth!

Originally posted by deadlift
OK. For all you ladies that have issues with my taste comment. You may want to consider picking up some clomid or OXO6......cause you sound like your estrogen levels are up. PMS maybe.......who knows.


As for the 135lb dumbell prop to yourself. Bud you better get to work. I wouldnt be bragging about 135lb dumbell presses. If thats all you can wimp up you need to try something that works.
We would laugh at your weak self in my gym.

Another stupid comment! Was David bragging about his 135 lb dumbell presses? No! He was speaking about improvement. Just like someone that weighed 160 at 10% bodyfat going to 180 at 8% bodyfat...hardley a monster, but awesome improvement.

And by the way...135 lb dumbell presses is more than 99.9% of the bodybuilding public could lift in that movement! What do you do? I suppose you use the 200 lbers like Ronnie Coleman, huh?

I'd not use leptigen if I couldn't mask the taste in crystal light or some such drink. I tell everyone not to drink it straight. I have even joked in threads about how bad it is, not been defensive about it.

Besides the flavored version is quite good.

Originally posted by Twin Peak
I'd not use leptigen if I couldn't mask the taste in crystal light or some such drink. I tell everyone not to drink it straight. I have even joked in threads about how bad it is, not been defensive about it.

Besides the flavored version is quite good.

The taste does not mask very well even in Crystal Light. But anyway, any bodybuilder (or person that chooses to call him or herself one) worth 2 cents would drink or eat anything that would give results no matter how it tastes. I would expect the same from you TP.

Originally posted by gopro
The taste does not mask very well even in Crystal Light. But anyway, any bodybuilder (or person that chooses to call him or herself one) worth 2 cents would drink or eat anything that would give results no matter how it tastes. I would expect the same from you TP.

I disagree completely.

Originally posted by deadlift
OK. For all you ladies that have issues with my taste comment. You may want to consider picking up some clomid or OXO6......cause you sound like your estrogen levels are up. PMS maybe.......who knows.


As for the 135lb dumbell prop to yourself. Bud you better get to work. I wouldnt be bragging about 135lb dumbell presses. If thats all you can wimp up you need to try something that works.
We would laugh at your weak self in my gym.

Dude what is your problem, just cause someone crapped on you about a taste comment don't take it out on everyone. I Didn't see David crap on you. All he did was give his opinion like you. So what if you can lift a house and no one else can, I am sure there was a time when you couldn't either, that's why you started working out and try different supplements to help you reach your goals. I don't like writing bad things to people, but I think you are out of line, maybe gopro was too, but there's no need to get personal!

Twin Peaks. Thanks for the support. Yes I was being a bit of an ass with the dumbell comments, but my original thread about the taste instigated a lot of unneccary comments to me. This forum unless I am mistaken is focused on sharing how you feel about products. Some here however use it to their advantage to sell their stuff. I dont like the VPX product. For those who read this past all the negative blow.......I hope you think twice before dropping money on this stuff.

An while we are on the subject of VPX. Why dont you "gopro" explain to all of us why you put your 1-TEST and 4-Test in a vile that looks just like a vile of illegal steroid TEST and attach to that vile a seringe that looks just like a PIN...."needle" then put it on the shelf where teenagers can buy it. My opinion...you would be selling steroids if you could get away with it.

Lastly....as for all the comments about bodybuilders putting anything and everything in their body that will give them results.....SHAME on you. Bodybuilding is about taking care of your body, putting in good things that will not damage your body, getting rest, eating right......yada yada yada So putting anything in that your average blow from VPX or any company tells will work is crap. You better do your research. Bottom Line

Deadlift, say something bad about Avant Labs quick, before I start getting accused of outlandish conspiracy theories.

Ok Avantlabs ...that stuff rocks
Oops....that stuff is bad


All this Test in my system from VPXs 4-androstendiol has my raging .....so sorry to all the fellows who hate me. I sure If i dig deep enough in the forums logs a few of you have said things others didnt like also.

I only say things that everyone univerally likes.

BTW, you do realize that 4-TEST is not a test product, but a 4-diol product? I assume you do given your last post, but there was an ambiguity in your statement, and I do not know your knowledge on PHs. And you never responded to my PM, btw.