Lookin for A good Prohormone

**LIgymrat** · 08-31-2003, 08:00 PM

I was thinking of trying dbol , from legal steroids.com ...Anybody ever try it ?? Is there a better prohormone anyone know of ??? Would really like to know . Thanks LI Gym rat

**ZECH** · 09-01-2003, 12:49 PM

Yes there are better Ph's than that. Try 1-ad or any good transdermal from 1fast.

**Twin Peak** · 09-02-2003, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by dg806
Yes there are better Ph's than that. Try 1-ad or any good transdermal from 1fast.

Agreed on that.

Where in LI are you from?

**gopro** · 09-02-2003, 12:58 PM

Try 1-Test PCE or 1-Test cypionate from VPX for best results. Forget the SDI products.

**kdwa1** · 09-03-2003, 01:06 AM

I got sucked into SDI Labs Stuff and it doesn't work.Have been using 1-AD for three weeks and major strength gains.Thanks for guidance on these boards.Wondering if anyone uses and likes Androdiol,is it fairly safe?Tks Go for the real Pro's.

**dstallion** · 09-03-2003, 03:19 PM

Try EXTREME 24/7 fast. I've been taking it for 3 weeks now and the price has already gone up $15. Even on the internet! It has the 1 TEST ETHER and other 1 testosterone pre cursors with the pr cursor to equipose. I got strong and shredded!

**bigswole30** · 09-03-2003, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by dstallion
Try EXTREME 24/7 fast. I've been taking it for 3 weeks now and the price has already gone up $15. Even on the internet! It has the 1 TEST ETHER and other 1 testosterone pre cursors with the pr cursor to equipose. I got strong and shredded!

I just looked over this product and wanted to laugh. Great ingredients, but ridicously low amounts. I give it two thumbs down.

What's in it?
Supplement Facts:

Serving Size: 1 capsule
Servings Per Container: 60

Amount Per Serving

Proprietary Blend/No U.S. RDA: 160mg
4-Androstenediol
5-alpha-androstane-3, 17 beta diol
1 Test THP Ether
1,4-androstadiene-3, 17 dione Diindolynmethane

**ZECH** · 09-03-2003, 07:04 PM

You should have that much of each ingredient!

**dstallion** · 09-04-2003, 09:56 AM

Are you kidding me?? 160mg per cap while taking 6 caps a day. If you do the math that is 960 mg /day. What other pro hormone out their has better ingredients and more mg/s???? I just think you read the ingredients wrong. I called up and asked how much ether is in each cap b/c I was wondering. They told me that their was over 30/mg per cap! That's a lot considering there is still other elite ingredients. Take a look at it again.

**Twin Peak** · 09-04-2003, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by dstallion
Are you kidding me?? 160mg per cap while taking 6 caps a day. If you do the math that is 960 mg /day. What other pro hormone out their has better ingredients and more mg/s???? I just think you read the ingredients wrong. I called up and asked how much ether is in each cap b/c I was wondering. They told me that their was over 30/mg per cap! That's a lot considering there is still other elite ingredients. Take a look at it again.

Looks to me like they are throwing everything but the kitchen sink in there. If thats what you want great but....

BTW, at 6 caps per day a bottle is lasting you 10 days....

**Twin Peak** · 09-04-2003, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by kdwa1
I got sucked into SDI Labs Stuff and it doesn't work.Have been using 1-AD for three weeks and major strength gains.Thanks for guidance on these boards.Wondering if anyone uses and likes Androdiol,is it fairly safe?Tks Go for the real Pro's.

If that is the ergopharm 4-diol product it is a nice product to stack with 1AD or a 1-test for mass gains.

**ZECH** · 09-04-2003, 10:57 AM

If you buy these seperately, most will have 100mg per cap. 4/ad dosages range from 800-1200mg daily and 1-test will usually run from 300-900 orally. Same for 1,4 and 5aa. You have 4 ingredients. If you buy them seperatly you would take 1 each(would be 400mg) at least 3 times a day. You need to do more research on PH's before you take them!

**Twin Peak** · 09-04-2003, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by dg806
You should have that much of each ingredient!

Wow I just realized that have a "proprietary blend", meaning it could almost entirely be the shittier PHs, with only a drop of 1-test. Bizarre.

**ZECH** · 09-04-2003, 11:08 AM

Even if it was split evenly, at 40mg per cap, that is not nearly enough orally.

**kdwa1** · 09-04-2003, 11:21 AM

Thanks Twin Peaks,Yea it is Ergo 4 androdiol I was thinking of.Good company.Appreciate the recommendation.Looks like Avant Labs has alot of good product also.

**Twin Peak** · 09-04-2003, 11:48 AM

Well, we don't have "a lot" of products (yet), but what we do have is quite good (if I do say so myself

)

You really can't go wrong with Ergopharm.

**dstallion** · 09-04-2003, 02:02 PM

Actually I did research on ph's before, and I found that the 1 t-u from molecular consists of just the 1 test ether and it's recommened does it 3-6 caps per day at 25mg/cap. you can do the math and see that this equates to 150 mg of ether per day. I think you need to do some research yourself. By the way, the products WORKS!

**dstallion** · 09-04-2003, 02:04 PM

Their must be a reason why this product has gone up in price. All I'm saying is that this products yeilds VERY GOOD RESULTS!

**ZECH** · 09-04-2003, 02:25 PM

Yeah it's called rip-off!

**dstallion** · 09-04-2003, 02:40 PM

good rebuttle!

**Twin Peak** · 09-04-2003, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by dstallion
good rebuttle!

Rebuttle? You haven't responded to that fact that we don't even know how much of each PH is in there.

**dstallion** · 09-04-2003, 02:58 PM

You can honestly say that the prod is a rip off because the price went up. Did you take economics? You should learn the law of supply and demand. When people start getting good results from a product of course the demand goes up, then the price goes up. Anyone knows that!

**Twin Peak** · 09-04-2003, 03:02 PM

Are you ignoring me? Obviously.

How can you push a product when you don't know what is in it?

**dstallion** · 09-04-2003, 03:29 PM

No one is pushing products here. I'm just letting people know that I've tried other ph's similar to the ex 24/7 and the results were expected. When I took the EX 24/7 I exceeded my expectations. Thats all I'm saying. As far as the mg/s of each ingredient. I don't know. But what I do know is that they have the most proven ingredients in one formula so thats why I tried it. I will be a customer of this product for as long as I work out.

**ZECH** · 09-04-2003, 05:04 PM

dstallion, I'm really being serious. I don't know very many people who would take something without knowing what's in it. Granted you know the four substances, but not how much of each. Most of the time companies that do this have something to hide. It's not you. Me and TP have been on these things for a while and know what to look for. I promise you there are better substances out there. If I was to e-mail my list, I bet TP would name some the very same ones! Now if you are truly not pimping this product, they must have figured something out that nobody else has figured out, and I doubt that very much. You would see feedback everwhere on boards and that is not the case.

**bigswole30** · 09-04-2003, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by dg806
dstallion, I'm really being serious. I don't know very many people who would take something without knowing what's in it. Granted you know the four substances, but not how much of each. Most of the time companies that do this have something to hide. It's not you. Me and TP have been on these things for a while and know what to look for. I promise you there are better substances out there. If I was to e-mail my list, I bet TP would name some the very same ones! Now if you are truly not pimping this product, they must have figured something out that nobody else has figured out, and I doubt that very much. You would see feedback everwhere on boards and that is not the case.

Very well said.

**kdwa1** · 09-04-2003, 08:48 PM

SDI Labs throws all the same stuff in their products with little or no effect.So I'm definitely sceptical myself.Big,you should give a 1-AD or Test etc,a try for comparsion.They do have exact dosage on the labels.

**LIgymrat** · 09-04-2003, 09:25 PM

Now I am completely and totally confused.

There has to be at least one company all of you respect... All of you truly do your chemical homework .. Appreciatr all your help. Gymrat

**ZECH** · 09-05-2003, 06:32 AM

Avant, Ergopharm, Syntrax, San, Molecular, VPX, BDC

**kdwa1** · 09-05-2003, 09:15 AM

DG hit it spot on,those are some of the best.I would also include 1fast400's products.They also sell all the above.I'm currently using most and very satisfied with the results.You can't go wrong.

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