You can get gyno via other means other than just aromatisation.
Good feedback on Nor is pretty few and far between. Some people have good results, others have nadda. If i was you i'd look more into the 1-test path.
ive recently been contemplating trying a ph; and im wondering would 19-norandrostenediol be the ph of choice if i was concerned about acne and gyno (as apposed to 1-test/4-ad or 1-test alone)? Seeing how it doesnt aromatize, would i be correct in assuming an anti-e isnt required post cycle; and would i use say tribulus/zma/flax post? Thanks
You can get gyno via other means other than just aromatisation.
Good feedback on Nor is pretty few and far between. Some people have good results, others have nadda. If i was you i'd look more into the 1-test path.
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so to be on the safe side, an anti-e (like 6-oxo) would even be used with nor, if need be? id be better off going for a 1-test/4-ad then for better results wouldnt i, as id probably need it with that anyways? im not so worried about massive gains, its price that is my concern, but i dont wanna go without an anti-e then need it and not have one readily available (im in australia, might be hard to get hold of) or vice versa. the gel im looking at is a 2:1 ratio 1-test/4-ad.
actually ive decided to just stick with creatine for now, its a bit too much money for me to spend at the moment. id still be interested to know if an anti-e is essential with any ph, or only if side effects are present. thanks


Any PH depending on cycle length, will suppress natural test and will need a post cycle. Just because it will not convert to dht directly, doesn't mean you will get zero aromatisation.
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