Tribestan and Boobies

J'Bo · 09-15-2003, 11:20 AM

Well i knew that if i put Boobies in the tittle i may get more response. Here is the story. I started taking Tribestan about 4 monthes ago (3 weeks on, 2 weeks off, 3 weeks on and 5 weeks off). This is my second cycle and about 4 weeks ago my BOOBIES have been so damn sore that it is almost impossible to touch them or run or hug anyone. The pain is different at different times of the month. After my first time taking Trib i did not have this at all, second time it came only after 3 weeks, third time it hurt after 7 days and so i stopped to see if it would make a difference (which it did not really) now after 4 days of being on it i am DYING...i look like i have hard round fakeys which would be great if they did not hurt so damn much.

Anyone have any insight as to what going on?

J'Bo · 09-15-2003, 11:51 AM

ok 9 views and still no one has any idea? damn people.

**Prince** · 09-15-2003, 11:53 AM

most likely because the Tribulus is increasing your estrogen levels.

J'Bo · 09-15-2003, 11:56 AM

why would it increase my estrogen levels if it is supposed to only increase my test? plus i emotionally feel like a man= no emotions other than SEX as appose to normal jenny=feelings of sappy love stories

JerrymeMorales · 09-15-2003, 12:00 PM

hmmmmmmmmmmm?

Wish I could help you on this Jbo.....

Ive never taken Trib so I dont know what to say but I have to tell you...the same pain you have felt in your breast is kind of the same when I was taken andro a long time ago....and because of that, I have a mild case of gyno.....

I dont think a woman can get gyno....

**Prince** · 09-15-2003, 12:12 PM

Because Tribulus does not work the same way in females that it does a male. Males have testes, and they get stimulated by LH (this is what Tribulus is "supposed" to increase), females do not have testes they get their small amount of testosterone from their adrenal glands and ovaries, this can also get stimulated by the Tribulus, but most likely you're gonna get an increase in estrogen.

The only thing you will gain from Tribulus aside from higher estrogen levels is a higher libido, and it will probably increase ovulation/fertility. If you're thinking that it's going to give you an anabolic effect, it won't.

My advice is to stop taking it, not only are you wasting your money, you're increasing a hormone that will cause the opposite of what you desire.

**Prince** · 09-15-2003, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by JerrymeMorales
Ive never taken Trib so I dont know what to say but I have to tell you...the same pain you have felt in your breast is kind of the same when I was taken andro a long time ago....and because of that, I have a mild case of gyno.....

EXACTLY!

And the reason you got gyno from andro is because the majority of it converted to estrogen.

J'Bo · 09-15-2003, 12:34 PM

OMG i want gyno

just kidding

Thanks Prince...i get it now. Last thing i need is to be more fertile

although i dont think it would matter if your not gettin any

**gopro** · 09-15-2003, 01:33 PM

Well, to make this whole thing more accurate I need to add that trib is supposed to increase LH secretion in both men AND women. For men, LH binds to receptors in the testes called Leydig cells, which stimulates testosterone release. However, there ARE cells in the ovaries that also respond to LH, called Theca cells. This also causes a rise in test levels, but in women there are other cells nearby called granulosa cells, which will then convert much of the new test into estrogen.

J'Bo · 09-15-2003, 01:49 PM

thanks babe

**Mudge** · 09-15-2003, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J'Bo
why would it increase my estrogen levels if it is supposed to only increase my test?

As an example, clomid works differently in men versus women.

**Prince** · 09-15-2003, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro
Well, to make this whole thing more accurate...

Nothing I said was inaccurate gopro, but you did add some clarification that apparently J'Bo needed.

LH in females stimulates the follicle to secrete estrogen; LH in males stimulates the interstitial cells of the testes to produce testosterone.

**gopro** · 09-15-2003, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
Nothing I said was inaccurate gopro, but you did add some clarification that apparently J'Bo needed.

LH in females stimulates the follicle to secrete estrogen; LH in males stimulates the interstitial cells of the testes to produce testosterone.

Prince I was not calling anything you said innacurate, but I didn't want anyone to think that LH DOES NOT stimulate testosterone in females b/c it does, albeit by a different pathway than in men.

"However, there ARE cells in the ovaries that also respond to LH, called Theca cells. This also causes a rise in test levels..." (from previous post)

BUSTINOUT · 09-16-2003, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J'Bo
i look like i have hard round fakeys which would be great if they did not hurt so damn much.

Hmmm, I don't see the problem.

**gopro** · 09-16-2003, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BUSTINOUT
Hmmm, I don't see the problem.

The problem is she likes to have her boobies felt! But if they hurt, it takes away from her pleasure...and mine! Well, in my dreams anyway

J'Bo · 09-16-2003, 09:28 AM

you got it GP...well long distance bites arent quite as good

**gopro** · 09-16-2003, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J'Bo
you got it GP...well long distance bites arent quite as good

Only wish it could be in person!

J'Bo · 09-16-2003, 10:17 AM

BUSTINOUT · 09-16-2003, 10:38 AM

aight...get a room you two.

J'Bo · 09-16-2003, 10:40 AM

should we get two double beds?

BabsieGirl · 09-16-2003, 10:50 AM

J'Bo

Why do you want to increase your test levels? Just curious.

J'Bo · 09-16-2003, 11:11 AM

to lift heavier and gain muscle and be a horny devil who has no emotions other than wanting to just

all day

BabsieGirl · 09-16-2003, 12:44 PM

Will that stuff work for me? Not the horny part. That comes natural.

But will it help me lean out or better utilize b/f?

J'Bo · 09-16-2003, 12:50 PM

no no no...i just got off of it cause its causing bad side effects...babsie supplements arent the answer...proper diet and rest is...

**gopro** · 09-16-2003, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J'Bo

should we get two double beds?

Just one babe! Me and you!

Sorry BOut!

BabsieGirl · 09-16-2003, 01:03 PM

I don't know if you know about the science end of nutrition. But, I'm curious. I know sleep is important and to get 8 hours if you're lucky is good. What I'm wondering is, what chemical release are bb and figure competitors looking for to release during sleep?

09-15-2003, 11:20 AM	#1
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	Tribestan and Boobies Well i knew that if i put Boobies in the tittle i may get more response. Here is the story. I started taking Tribestan about 4 monthes ago (3 weeks on, 2 weeks off, 3 weeks on and 5 weeks off). This is my second cycle and about 4 weeks ago my BOOBIES have been so damn sore that it is almost impossible to touch them or run or hug anyone. The pain is different at different times of the month. After my first time taking Trib i did not have this at all, second time it came only after 3 weeks, third time it hurt after 7 days and so i stopped to see if it would make a difference (which it did not really) now after 4 days of being on it i am DYING...i look like i have hard round fakeys which would be great if they did not hurt so damn much. Anyone have any insight as to what going on?
	....and thats my $.02

09-15-2003, 11:51 AM	#2
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	ok 9 views and still no one has any idea? damn people.
	....and thats my $.02

09-15-2003, 11:53 AM	#3
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,717 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	most likely because the Tribulus is increasing your estrogen levels.
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09-15-2003, 11:56 AM	#4
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	why would it increase my estrogen levels if it is supposed to only increase my test? plus i emotionally feel like a man= no emotions other than SEX as appose to normal jenny=feelings of sappy love stories
	....and thats my $.02

09-15-2003, 12:12 PM	#6
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,717 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	Because Tribulus does not work the same way in females that it does a male. Males have testes, and they get stimulated by LH (this is what Tribulus is "supposed" to increase), females do not have testes they get their small amount of testosterone from their adrenal glands and ovaries, this can also get stimulated by the Tribulus, but most likely you're gonna get an increase in estrogen. The only thing you will gain from Tribulus aside from higher estrogen levels is a higher libido, and it will probably increase ovulation/fertility. If you're thinking that it's going to give you an anabolic effect, it won't. My advice is to stop taking it, not only are you wasting your money, you're increasing a hormone that will cause the opposite of what you desire.
	SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips! HumaneVoLabs - Foaming Transdermal Delivery System.

09-15-2003, 12:00 PM	#5
JerrymeMorales Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 120	hmmmmmmmmmmm? Wish I could help you on this Jbo..... Ive never taken Trib so I dont know what to say but I have to tell you...the same pain you have felt in your breast is kind of the same when I was taken andro a long time ago....and because of that, I have a mild case of gyno..... I dont think a woman can get gyno....

09-15-2003, 12:34 PM	#8
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	OMG i want gyno just kidding Thanks Prince...i get it now. Last thing i need is to be more fertile although i dont think it would matter if your not gettin any
	....and thats my $.02

09-15-2003, 01:33 PM	#9
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,502	Well, to make this whole thing more accurate I need to add that trib is supposed to increase LH secretion in both men AND women. For men, LH binds to receptors in the testes called Leydig cells, which stimulates testosterone release. However, there ARE cells in the ovaries that also respond to LH, called Theca cells. This also causes a rise in test levels, but in women there are other cells nearby called granulosa cells, which will then convert much of the new test into estrogen.
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09-15-2003, 01:49 PM	#10
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	thanks babe
	....and thats my $.02

09-16-2003, 09:28 AM	#16
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	you got it GP...well long distance bites arent quite as good
	....and thats my $.02

09-16-2003, 10:17 AM	#18
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6
	....and thats my $.02

09-16-2003, 10:38 AM	#19
BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,415	aight...get a room you two.

09-16-2003, 10:40 AM	#20
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	should we get two double beds?
	....and thats my $.02

09-16-2003, 10:50 AM	#21
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	J'Bo Why do you want to increase your test levels? Just curious.
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

09-16-2003, 11:11 AM	#22
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	to lift heavier and gain muscle and be a horny devil who has no emotions other than wanting to just all day
	....and thats my $.02

09-16-2003, 12:44 PM	#23
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Will that stuff work for me? Not the horny part. That comes natural. But will it help me lean out or better utilize b/f?
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

09-16-2003, 12:50 PM	#24
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	no no no...i just got off of it cause its causing bad side effects...babsie supplements arent the answer...proper diet and rest is...
	....and thats my $.02

09-16-2003, 01:03 PM	#26
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	I don't know if you know about the science end of nutrition. But, I'm curious. I know sleep is important and to get 8 hours if you're lucky is good. What I'm wondering is, what chemical release are bb and figure competitors looking for to release during sleep?
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS