Ventilean by PharmagenX

**bigswole30** · 09-22-2003, 04:57 PM

I recieved a free bottle of Ventilean from PharmagenX. It is ephedra free which is good b/c I want to cycle off ephedra for a while. Anyways I took 5cc's prior to training and this stuff gave one heck of a kick. For those of you who want a ephedra-free product I would look into Ventilean. I can't vouch for it's fat-loss potential yet but it is an excellent pre-workout supplement. I can't wait to try the FinigenX and NitrogenX that they sent me as well. They are 240cc bottles, so this was quite cool of them.

**ZECH** · 09-22-2003, 07:39 PM

Good luck! Glad you didn't have to buy it!

**bigswole30** · 09-23-2003, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by dg806
Good luck! Glad you didn't have to buy it!

I am going to be open minded about these products. All too many people follow PA's post like he is the ruler of the PH world. They may perform well or they may not. Who knows? They are also sending me their 1-testagenX Suspension to add to my cycle in the third week.

**ZECH** · 09-23-2003, 07:01 AM

Cool!

**bigswole30** · 09-25-2003, 11:27 AM

I just got a second 240cc bottle of FinigenX unexpected in the mail. PharmagenX scores an "A" in my book. Here is what I probaly do for my next cycle:

FinigenX 12cc's per day

VPX 4-t cypionate 1ml EOD

VPX 4- ht cypionate

However, I also have free bottles of methyl 1-test and methyl 1,4ad on the way.

**bigswole30** · 09-25-2003, 11:28 AM

I forgot the 4-ht cypionate would be 1ml everyday

**gopro** · 09-25-2003, 12:45 PM

I will not come on this very nice thread put out by my pal bigswole and mention what truly is the best ephedra-free fat burner REDLINE. I will further NOT mention that it should be ready to ship next week and that there is a buy 2 get one free sale going on right now. I would not do that to my buddy bigswole

**Twin Peak** · 09-25-2003, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by gopro
I will not come on this very nice thread put out by my pal bigswole and mention what truly is the best ephedra-free fat burner REDLINE. I will further NOT mention that it should be ready to ship next week and that there is a buy 2 get one free sale going on right now. I would not do that to my buddy bigswole

You should be offering it to IMers to test.

**ZECH** · 09-25-2003, 01:03 PM

I double agree!

**Twin Peak** · 09-25-2003, 01:08 PM

All the cool companies are doing it.

**bigswole30** · 09-25-2003, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by gopro
I will not come on this very nice thread put out by my pal bigswole and mention what truly is the best ephedra-free fat burner REDLINE. I will further NOT mention that it should be ready to ship next week and that there is a buy 2 get one free sale going on right now. I would not do that to my buddy bigswole

Thanks for the heads up. Troy is supposed to give me a call as soon as he has them in store. He also said it's crazy stuff.

**gopro** · 09-26-2003, 09:36 AM

I have a 5 ml dose sitting right in front of me that Jack wants me to test before they bottle the first batch. I am hesitating taking it b/c I don't feel like sweating my ass off at my desk right now!

**Twin Peak** · 09-26-2003, 09:40 AM

Don't be a wuss, pound it.

**bigswole30** · 09-26-2003, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by gopro
I have a 5 ml dose sitting right in front of me that Jack wants me to test before they bottle the first batch. I am hesitating taking it b/c I don't feel like sweating my ass off at my desk right now!

How long before the NGA nationals? j/k How the taste? Is it as good to the ole taste buds as clenbutrx?

**gopro** · 09-26-2003, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Don't be a wuss, pound it.

I prefer wussness right now. I'll take it later before I train back when I can put it to use!

**gopro** · 09-26-2003, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by bigswole30
How long before the NGA nationals? j/k How the taste? Is it as good to the ole taste buds as clenbutrx?

The NGAs are November 8th. Actually, REDLINE tastes good...not like sewage like Liquid Clen, LOL.

**bigswole30** · 09-26-2003, 10:37 AM

Taste good? Come on now. I have yet to find a liposmal VPX product that does'nt leave something to be desired. What kind of pricing will we be looking at for a 240cc bottle? Online that is, not direct.

**gopro** · 09-26-2003, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by bigswole30
Taste good? Come on now. I have yet to find a liposmal VPX product that does'nt leave something to be desired. What kind of pricing will we be looking at for a 240cc bottle? Online that is, not direct.

Honestly, I have no clue about the price as of yet. I should know by Monday. They are running a buy 2 get one free right now, but that probably won't last.

As far as taste. I actually like it. Its pretty sweet.

**greekblondechic** · 04-17-2004, 04:36 PM

I did not react well to Redline, does anybody know anything about this ventilean stuff? Is it good? Does it work? Side effects?

**Twin Peak** · 04-17-2004, 10:05 PM

Its basically a load of Synephrine.

Didn't do much for me, as far as a preworkout stimulant, but not much does.

**greekblondechic** · 04-18-2004, 01:22 AM

Thanks TP. I hate how supp's advertise ephedra free when they have stuff like synephrine in it as a substitute and of course the general public doesnt know about it

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