Reply With QuoteI would go with Syngex 1 & 2. It is a more complete cycle, but SO+ would give very nice gains as well and would be easier on the wallet.
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10-01-2003, 11:24 AM #1Registered User
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What is better??
For you guys that have tried or maybe know either one of them??
Which cycle is better?? Which cycle do I get hard, lean and add more muscles???? Is it Super ONE+ or Syngex 1 combined with Syngex 2??
How long is a cycle?? I am 6'2 and 220.
I am about to start a cycle next week, but don't know which one to pick.
Thanks for any feedback
jay_d
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hey thanks for the suggestion bigswole. Either one of those from what you are saying cant go wrong right??
Should I take an anti-estrogen?? and whats the dosage and how long a cycle should take for real gains??
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Most people reccommend 4-6 weeks on these two products. You will not need an anti-e while you are on, but you want to pick one up for safety reasons. Post cycle many people use 6oxo, clomid, nolva, and Aromadex. Personally I think post cycle supps are overrrated, but you may want to use of the products I listed. If I had to choose I would go with Aromadex. Yes, I love VPX products.
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I appreciate it man. That was a big help to clarify my doubts and concerns.
Thanks a lot and have a great day!!
Jay_dA lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get
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you said....You will not need an anti-e while you are on, but you want to pick one up for safety reasons. ....You mean after I am done with the cycle i can take the anti-estrogen?
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10-01-2003, 12:37 PM #7Registered User
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Yes post cycle is when you should take it. The reason I said for safety reason is because there is a slight chance of gyno from using prohorones though I have never heard any case of it.
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what is an anti-estrogen??
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Do you mean who makes one or what does it do. Two choices are Aromadex by VPX and 6oxo by "monoply" Ergopharm.Originally posted by sikunt
what is an anti-estrogen??
I have never looked at the exact science of how they work, but my guess would be that they bind to or reduce the activity of Aromatase. Maybe someone else can better explain this
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ummmmm i have no ide what you are talking about sorry
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Well despite what some people think all estrogen is not bad. Some estrogen actually promotes a more anabolic enviroment. However, too much can be very bad. Side effects such as gyno, every males worst enemy except a few freaks. Another side effect of estrogen are water retension. This is someting I hate. I hate being7% bodyfat but retaining water and looking smooth.
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LOL ouh ok
SO estrogen is the hormone that gets realeased by the body after training for too long in the gym and u start loosing muscle...??? or hav i confused that with something else??? LOL
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You are confused buddy. I think you are reffering to cortisol aka the muscle destroying hormone. Let's make this easier. Are you using AAS or Ph's or are you just trying to learn more? The average normal healthy man does not need to worry about estrogen.Originally posted by sikunt
LOL ouh ok
SO estrogen is the hormone that gets realeased by the body after training for too long in the gym and u start loosing muscle...??? or hav i confused that with something else??? LOL
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lol ummm im not using aas or ph woteva they are lol. hehe
But umm im intrested in using some prohormone if they even are prohormones. The problem is i dont know how to get them because i think they are illegal in Australia. So im trying top find out a little bit more about them.
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after using pro hormones for a while your body begins not making as much nature test so when you quit taking the artificial test so to say ,your nature test levels are really lower and estrogen increases if you dont use an anti estro(test booster) to bring your nature levels up to speed ,( estrogen makes your muscles softer)not having that hard mass we all want ....` correct me if im wrong on this but thats my take on this matter
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