Nor-aderm

**BabsieGirl** · 10-01-2003, 08:13 PM

Does anyone have a breakdown of what this is and what it does? I'm curious.

Thanks all

**ZECH** · 10-02-2003, 12:37 PM

This needs to be in Supplements.

**ZECH** · 10-02-2003, 12:48 PM

19 NOR is a precursor to the steriod nandrolone. It converts via the 3-beta enzyme. It will give you lean gains and very little side affects.

**BabsieGirl** · 10-02-2003, 08:43 PM

thanks DG....Did I ever tell you how awsome you are......So very nice, cooperative, knowlegdable.....etc......

**ZECH** · 10-03-2003, 06:12 AM

awh shucks!!!!

Back at ya!

**BabsieGirl** · 10-03-2003, 07:22 AM

**Twin Peak** · 10-03-2003, 09:53 AM

Its a faviorite PH for women, as it has few androgenic (male) side effects. It did nothing positive for me.

**BabsieGirl** · 10-03-2003, 11:06 AM

So, it's something that works for women, not men! Hmmm..How is this positive for women and when should an athelete consider using 19-Nor

**Leslie** · 10-03-2003, 12:24 PM

Its not that it doesn't work for men...just some men. I beleive TP had experienced sides before any results so he stopped.

For women the sides are minimal or nonexistant. I used this for 8 weks and had no sides except higher sex drive. I had strenght gains and fuller muscles. It was great

**ZECH** · 10-03-2003, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by Leslie

I used this for 8 weks and had no sides except higher sex drive.

I was wondering how it would affect women in this way. Know I know!! I need to buy my wife some!

**BabsieGirl** · 10-03-2003, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Leslie
Its not that it doesn't work for men...just some men. I beleive TP had experienced sides before any results so he stopped.

For women the sides are minimal or nonexistant. I used this for 8 weks and had no sides except higher sex drive. I had strenght gains and fuller muscles. It was great

Oh no!!!!! My husbands goin to be in for it then.....He thinks I'm a nymph now.....ha ha ha....just wait till I get on that stuff. wooohoooo....

**nikegurl** · 10-03-2003, 01:45 PM

hi leslie - curious if your gains lasted after the 8 weeks?

**BabsieGirl** · 10-03-2003, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by nikegurl
hi leslie - curious if your gains lasted after the 8 weeks?

Good question

**Twin Peak** · 10-03-2003, 02:36 PM

As with any PH, you can keep most if not all of your gains with a proper post-cycle protocol.

**BabsieGirl** · 10-03-2003, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Twin Peak
As with any PH, you can keep most if not all of your gains with a proper post-cycle protocol.

In laymen terms.....that means?

Sorry, I'm just learning about all this stuff.

you're being VERY helpful though.

**Leslie** · 10-03-2003, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by nikegurl
hi leslie - curious if your gains lasted after the 8 weeks?

I have just finished last week. So far all looks good. Strength has not decreased at all and msucles looking the same. I will kepp you all posted

**nikegurl** · 10-03-2003, 03:18 PM

is it true that Avant stopped making it?

**Twin Peak** · 10-03-2003, 03:28 PM

Yes.

Proper post cycle protocol:

- reduce training volume
- heavy weights
- no failure
- increased calories
- increased EFAs

**BabsieGirl** · 10-03-2003, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Yes.

Proper post cycle protocol:

- reduce training volume
- heavy weights
- no failure
- increased calories
- increased EFAs

Shit....you guys don't sell it anymore...that sucks. Why not?

Okay....let me get this straight. Sorry, I'm really dingy...low carbs...equals....low brain activity.

No light weight high reps
Train heavy
no Failure
MORE FOOD....HELL YEAH.
Increased EFAs.....whow.....by how much?

**ZECH** · 10-03-2003, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
Shit....you guys don't sell it anymore...that sucks. Why not?

1fast still has it. If he runs out, I will make some and send to ya!!

**Par Deus** · 10-03-2003, 05:54 PM

Mike (1fast) bought the formula from us, for use with PH/androgens, so he will have it under his DermaBolics label, soon, I assume (unless he does not go with a 19-Nor product, because the profit margins are not that great)

**nikegurl** · 10-03-2003, 06:05 PM

can anyone give a rough idea how long a single bottle would last? leslie - how many did you need for 6 weeks?

(by the way - i know now is not the time for me to use, just learning for future reference)

**ZECH** · 10-03-2003, 06:16 PM

Roughly 4 weeks..........with half dosage though, it would last you longer.

**BabsieGirl** · 10-03-2003, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by dg806
1fast still has it. If he runs out, I will make some and send to ya!!

If you can make it hell....maybe you should consider opening up a lab

**ZECH** · 10-03-2003, 07:12 PM

Par already tried that!

**firestorm** · 10-06-2003, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
So, it's something that works for women, not men! Hmmm..How is this positive for women and when should an athelete consider using 19-Nor

Babsie I just looked this up for you so you can get your questions answered in "laymens" terms. go here and it gives you information on 19-Nor (you can even buy it hear also).
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/19nor250.html

**ZECH** · 10-06-2003, 07:20 AM

Oral is no good. Low bioavalibility. Need to take 1g+ per day to see any benifits. That would get very expensive. That is why transdermal is better.

**firestorm** · 10-06-2003, 06:03 PM

DG,, you know your stuff about this obviously, why don't you do a search on google for her and find a good product and price for her.

**ZECH** · 10-06-2003, 06:13 PM

1fast is the best , while he still has it! (Transdermal 4/ad gel) $65
Not trying to discredit you though!

**firestorm** · 10-06-2003, 06:40 PM

Oh come on your not discrediting me. I just did a Google search on that product name and the word "cheap" and picked the 1st company I found. It had info on what the suppliment does and its ingredients. I don't know squat about that stuff so please feel free to discredit me at will. I'll even help!!! hahahahahaha

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