How many pills you take?

TheGreatSatan · 10-09-2003, 04:27 AM

I've been taking around 20 pills each day. I was wondering how that compares to everyone else.

**calalily1972** · 10-09-2003, 06:05 AM

What kind of pills.

ponyboy · 10-09-2003, 06:06 AM

Holy crap! What the heck are they?

TheGreatSatan · 10-09-2003, 06:42 AM

Aminos, multi, fish oils, 1-AD, coral calcium, CLA, and something else I think.

vanity · 10-10-2003, 11:13 PM

Pills, Thrills and Bellyaches...

Sounds to me like you may be taking 19 pills too many.
A good multivitamin to supplement an already healthy and balanced diet should be all one needs. Anything beyond that is pretty much overkill and a waste of money.

Foods, as they occur in nature, not a science lab are the way to go. Eat more fruits, vegetables and grains and flush the pills down the toilet. Your body (and wallet) will thank you for it.

*Note* to all Supplement Users and Abusers: If you treat your body like a science experiment you may 10 or 20 years from now become your very own Frankenstein monster. It's ironic how in the pursuit of health many get sick.

Pills are not for the healthy and strong , they are for the sick and infirm.

Tha Don · 10-11-2003, 07:24 AM

i take...

3 flax/linseed caps (from FSC)
1 multi-vit pill
3 thermobol or thermokick metabolism enhancing pills (from mm)
4 CLA-1000 caps (also from mm)

so thats 11 a day!

but the 3 thermo pills are only for when i'm cutting, they will stop soon, i'll probably cut out the CLA too, coz soon i'll be on the creatine, glut and zma (along with loads of food

when i go back to bulking)

will i still need flax on a bulk?

kdwa1 · 10-11-2003, 07:36 AM

I'm doing at least 15.Multi,chlorella,fish oil,E,C,alpha lipoic etc.I often do as many as 20 myself.I see it as fod so no matter,just pop em.

Tha Don · 10-11-2003, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vanity
Pills, Thrills and Bellyaches...

Sounds to me like you may be taking 19 pills too many.
A good multivitamin to supplement an already healthy and balanced diet should be all one needs. Anything beyond that is pretty much overkill and a waste of money.

Foods, as they occur in nature, not a science lab are the way to go. Eat more fruits, vegetables and grains and flush the pills down the toilet. Your body (and wallet) will thank you for it.

*Note* to all Supplement Users and Abusers: If you treat your body like a science experiment you may 10 or 20 years from now become your very own Frankenstein monster. It's ironic how in the pursuit of health many get sick.

Pills are not for the healthy and strong , they are for the sick and infirm.

I disagree mate

it depends how you use them, what they are, what your diet/training looks like... etc

some people can use suplements to great effect! things like creatine and whey help many people achieve goals that would not have been possible without their use

obviously i'm not sayin everyone wanting to look good should go and take supplements, they should be used when you hit a stage in your training where you cannot get anymore gains naturally, thats where supplements are very effective at helping us reach that next level

all serious athletes must supplement

thats JMO

peace

kdwa1 · 10-11-2003, 08:06 AM

I have to say that vitamin supplements are good for EVERYONE unless they have serious health problems or allegies.

JerseyDevil · 10-11-2003, 08:31 AM

1 multi, twelve 1,000g fish oil, currently four 1-AD, and 1 prescription med.

Freeman · 10-11-2003, 07:03 PM

I do 2 multis a day, 3 1-AD a day, some digestion aid pills, some joint health pills, and sometimes some fish oil pills.

vanity · 10-11-2003, 08:45 PM

You can disagree if you like. I can respect that. However, if you reach a stage in your training where you cannot "gain naturally", as you say, I would 1st question your training and diet before rushing off to the nearest pharmacy.

Furthermore, The Food And Drug Administration has very limited power to regulate dietary supplements. Dangerous supplements can be sold for years before the FDA has enough complaints to launch an investigation.

So basically, companies can put whatever they want into their products and make any outlandish claims they wish . Meanwhile gullible and misinformed or ignorant consumers (looking for an edge) pay ridiculous amounts of money for powders, bars, pills and potions.

Do you really know what is in the supplements you take?
Do you really know what the long term effects of taking them are?

It would be wise to get the opinion of a registered dietician rather than blindly believing the ridiculous claims one sees in fitness magazine adds or infomercials.

My 2 cents...

Freeman · 10-11-2003, 09:12 PM

Well, I can't speak for anyone else on here, but I know EXACTLY what is in the pills I am taking. Also, there are MANY studies out there that show that certain products DO have benefits such as creatine, 1-AD, 1-test, etc. Also, you mention powders...are you speaking of whey protein?

Of course, I agree, everyone should do their research, but that does not have to mean consulting a dietician. There are lots of publications one can find...and if you're a serious bodybuilder or weightlifter, you should have already educated yourself and continue to educate yourself on different supps. and such. You are always learning........

TheGreatSatan · 10-11-2003, 11:31 PM

If you want to know what is actually in what you take, look here.

http://www.labelclaimstesting.com/

gr81 · 10-12-2003, 04:37 AM

this thread is just a cheap shot at Rush Limbaugh isn't it, ISN"T IT!? how many pills..... for christ sake!?.........ha ha ha, lol

firestorm · 10-12-2003, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vanity
Pills, Thrills and Bellyaches...

Sounds to me like you may be taking 19 pills too many.
A good multivitamin to supplement an already healthy and balanced diet should be all one needs. Anything beyond that is pretty much overkill and a waste of money.

Foods, as they occur in nature, not a science lab are the way to go. Eat more fruits, vegetables and grains and flush the pills down the toilet. Your body (and wallet) will thank you for it.

*Note* to all Supplement Users and Abusers: If you treat your body like a science experiment you may 10 or 20 years from now become your very own Frankenstein monster. It's ironic how in the pursuit of health many get sick.

Pills are not for the healthy and strong , they are for the sick and infirm.

Well I kinda sorta agree with this gal. I do think that Suppliments are over used and in some cases over rated.

Honestly, when I gave up steroids years ago and injured my back I was out of the gym totally for like 2 years. I got fat and lost just about everything I worked so hard to gain up to that injury.
When I was finally healthy enough to start training again, I didn't take nothing, nada, ziltch. They didn't have all this fancy stuff they have now or if they did I was unaware of it all. I lost the weight and gained "some" muscle back (not like when I was on steroids but never the less, I looked like I worked out again. The Pictures you all got to see of me in my lovely zebra spandex pics (no jokes please lol) was totally "natural" no creatine, steroids, or what have you. Periodically I had a protein shake and that was it. I'm currently taking Creatine, Glutamine, 1-T(for 2 days), and Clenbuterx because I'm in that online compition and I'm looking to make quicker gains/losses. If it helps I'll let ya all know in my journal. I don't even take a multi vitamin. I believe I get most of my vitamins naturally in foods. If any certain mineral or vitamin is deficient in my diet I can't tell so why take it? Just in case? If that were a good reason, I'm going to go and take an Excederine for this headache I may get in 30 minutes.

firestorm · 10-12-2003, 04:53 AM

I really do question to myself when looking at peoples journals of ALL the stuff they are taking along with all that good food they ingest and wonder, how much of it is really necessary. Hell I may be WAYYY of track here and have a total misconception of things but I'm only going by personnel experiences. I didnt' take anything and still gained nice size and strength.

firestorm · 10-12-2003, 04:55 AM

oh and protein powder is just an easy and quick way to eat a meal. I see no problems with that and shouldn't be bunched in with this pill conversation. Plus I forgot, I've increased my use of protein Powders also. I do drink them every day now.

Freeman · 10-12-2003, 06:44 AM

Fire, my man, you are blessed with very good genes. People like me and Mudgey have all stinky poop genes. It sucks. I am not LAZY as vanity would suggest (since I take SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many pills, I MUST be looking for that magic pill). Well, I know improvements come incrimentally, but I am finally FINALLY making gains after starting a cycle of 1-ad after almost 2 years of PATHETIC strength gains...i tried adjusting it all, diet, workouts, sleep, etc. nothing worked....now, all lifts have gone up. maybe this is just the jolt my system needed to get going.

oh, and about damn time you started the powders man!

Tha Don · 10-12-2003, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by firestorm
Well I kinda sorta agree with this gal. I do think that Suppliments are over used and in some cases over rated.

Honestly, when I gave up steroids years ago and injured my back I was out of the gym totally for like 2 years. I got fat and lost just about everything I worked so hard to gain up to that injury.
When I was finally healthy enough to start training again, I didn't take nothing, nada, ziltch. They didn't have all this fancy stuff they have now or if they did I was unaware of it all. I lost the weight and gained "some" muscle back (not like when I was on steroids but never the less, I looked like I worked out again. The Pictures you all got to see of me in my lovely zebra spandex pics (no jokes please lol) was totally "natural" no creatine, steroids, or what have you. Periodically I had a protein shake and that was it. I'm currently taking Creatine, Glutamine, 1-T(for 2 days), and Clenbuterx because I'm in that online compition and I'm looking to make quicker gains/losses. If it helps I'll let ya all know in my journal. I don't even take a multi vitamin. I believe I get most of my vitamins naturally in foods. If any certain mineral or vitamin is deficient in my diet I can't tell so why take it? Just in case? If that were a good reason, I'm going to go and take an Excederine for this headache I may get in 30 minutes.

your kind of contradicting yourself

you agree that supplements are a 'waste of money', for the 'sick' etc... then you go on to say you take 'creatine' and 'glutamine', and in your more recent post that you use 'whey'!

your either pro sups or anti sups, can't be both

yes you can make gains without supplements, but research shows that supplements can increase gains drasticly

creatine has allowed me to put on extra size and has really improved my strength (without it I was struggling to continue to make progress), after seeing benefits from both creatine and whey i'm definatly pro sups

and so are 99% of top athletes

i don't understand people who are against supplements when they use them... even 'vanity' you say a multi-vit pill is okay? but when is the difference between a multi vit and any other dietary supplement? they are all their to aid diet

sups are essential if you want that 'edge' over your competitiors

peace

Freeman · 10-12-2003, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by young d

your either pro sups or anti sups, can't be both

Well, this is being a bit extreme. You can have a middle ground here and think certain supps. work extremely well, while you might feel that others do not work at all. Also, we have to realize that some supps. may work for some people, and not for others.

Tha Don · 10-12-2003, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Freeman
Well, this is being a bit extreme. You can have a middle ground here and think certain supps. work extremely well, while you might feel that others do not work at all. Also, we have to realize that some supps. may work for some people, and not for others.

hmm

how can you be anti sups if you use supplements?

i think everyone who is pro-sups knows that some of them are bull. and many of them they wouldn't bother using (mainly because they do not need to supplement with them, each supplement has its own purpose)

if you use a supplement i don't think you can diss them

you either use them or you don't, its quite simple, i don't c a middle ground

peace

Freeman · 10-12-2003, 07:46 PM

my point is that Fire isn't "anti-supps"...you were trying to pigeon-hole him into that category..

**Prince** · 10-12-2003, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vanity
Furthermore, The Food And Drug Administration has very limited power to regulate dietary supplements. Dangerous supplements can be sold for years before the FDA has enough complaints to launch an investigation.

like ephedra?

yeah, it's real dangerous.

firestorm · 10-12-2003, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by young d
your kind of contradicting yourself

you agree that supplements are a 'waste of money', for the 'sick' etc... then you go on to say you take 'creatine' and 'glutamine', and in your more recent post that you use 'whey'!

your either pro sups or anti sups, can't be both

yes you can make gains without supplements, but research shows that supplements can increase gains drasticly

creatine has allowed me to put on extra size and has really improved my strength (without it I was struggling to continue to make progress), after seeing benefits from both creatine and whey i'm definatly pro sups

and so are 99% of top athletes

i don't understand people who are against supplements when they use them... even 'vanity' you say a multi-vit pill is okay? but when is the difference between a multi vit and any other dietary supplement? they are all their to aid diet

sups are essential if you want that 'edge' over your competitiors

peace

NO NO NO NO NO!!! I'm not contradicting myself. I stated that I made excellent gains over like ummm 15 years without any of the new fangled stuff. Now I'm giving it a whirl after seeing and reading what members here have posted in the past year. This is the reason I joined this site, to learn of these non illegal training suppliments. I admit the fact I'm now 41 and it isn't as easy as it used to be. And from what I hear regading some of these things, they ARE little magic pills in a sense. They do help speed up gains and or weight loss. I said they didn't have this kind of stuff back in the day. Your only real alternative was steroids and as mentioned by me many times. I did those too. I either worded something wrong or you took it the wrong way.

Freeman · 10-12-2003, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
like ephedra?

yeah, it's real dangerous.

I mean, yeah, it kills EVERYONE who uses it, right!??!

firestorm · 10-12-2003, 08:10 PM

Young I saw where I said suppliments are a waist of money, over used and over rated. I also used the word "some" not all. An example is if your taking lets say a Megaman multi vitamin,, why are you also taking extra B-12 prior to a workout?? I knew someone like that. Ya look at the ingredients of like 5 things on that refridgerator and some of those ingredients are replicated in one or more of those products. that was all my point was on that.

firestorm · 10-12-2003, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Freeman
my point is that Fire isn't "anti-supps"...you were trying to pigeon-hole him into that category..

Your right I'm not anti supps. NOt in the least. like the gentlemen said that if I were I'd be talking out of both sided of my face. I said they are in "some" cases overused and dependent upon. My point in short is I "personnally" do not see a need to take 10 different suppiments at one time. He was right about Creatine, this isn't the 1st time I've used it and I did see a drastic improvement in my training with it. the 1T is something new for me and like I said I'll let you all know how it works for me. I hardly put it down. I certainly am not going to say the stuff is bullshit and then go out and buy it. Right? You understand what I was saying Freeman. I suppose I need to choose my words more carefully in the future.

firestorm · 10-12-2003, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by young d
hmm

how can you be anti sups if you use supplements?

i think everyone who is pro-sups knows that some of them are bull. and many of them they wouldn't bother using (mainly because they do not need to supplement with them, each supplement has its own purpose)

if you use a supplement i don't think you can diss them

you either use them or you don't, its quite simple, i don't c a middle ground

peace

Young I see how I misguided you and there are no hard feelings over hear. I can see how I confused things. My appologies. As for your posts, I quite agree that some suppliments are genuine. But there is alot of crap out there too which I forgot to mention above. I remember when Chromium Picolinate was the "in" drug to take for weight loss. It was all hyped up and later studies showed that it assists but was in no way comparible to a xenadrine or something of that nature. HMB was the mega suppliment to add serious mass. Sheit, I don't know how many people I know used it and didn't see squat. Point is lots of hype in some cases and no real bang for the buck. again why I used the word "some" in original post.

**Prince** · 10-12-2003, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by firestorm
Young I saw where I said suppliments are a waist of money, over used and over rated. I also used the word "some" not all. An example is if your taking lets say a Megaman multi vitamin,, why are you also taking extra B-12 prior to a workout??

because B vitamins are water soluable and they do not stay in your system long.

10-09-2003, 04:27 AM	#1
TheGreatSatan Building PC's, not Muscle Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cutting after a Year! Posts: 11,841 Photos: 16	How many pills you take? I've been taking around 20 pills each day. I was wondering how that compares to everyone else.

10-09-2003, 06:06 AM	#3
ponyboy Training Trainer Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Running around somewhere Posts: 2,608 Photos: 1	Holy crap! What the heck are they? Today I can do what others will not so that tomorrow I will do what others cannot. The difference between winners and losers is that winners do things that losers don't want to do.

10-11-2003, 07:36 AM	#7
kdwa1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Asia Posts: 303	I'm doing at least 15.Multi,chlorella,fish oil,E,C,alpha lipoic etc.I often do as many as 20 myself.I see it as fod so no matter,just pop em. Live Well- Live Long- Keep Rockin

10-11-2003, 08:06 AM	#9
kdwa1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Asia Posts: 303	I have to say that vitamin supplements are good for EVERYONE unless they have serious health problems or allegies. Live Well- Live Long- Keep Rockin

10-11-2003, 07:03 PM	#11
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	I do 2 multis a day, 3 1-AD a day, some digestion aid pills, some joint health pills, and sometimes some fish oil pills. www.kingsburymusic.net

10-09-2003, 06:05 AM	#2
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	What kind of pills.

10-09-2003, 06:42 AM	#4
TheGreatSatan Building PC's, not Muscle Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cutting after a Year! Posts: 11,841 Photos: 16	Aminos, multi, fish oils, 1-AD, coral calcium, CLA, and something else I think.

10-10-2003, 11:13 PM	#5
vanity Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: m Posts: 1,218 Photos: 1	Pills, Thrills and Bellyaches... Sounds to me like you may be taking 19 pills too many. A good multivitamin to supplement an already healthy and balanced diet should be all one needs. Anything beyond that is pretty much overkill and a waste of money. Foods, as they occur in nature, not a science lab are the way to go. Eat more fruits, vegetables and grains and flush the pills down the toilet. Your body (and wallet) will thank you for it. Note to all Supplement Users and Abusers: If you treat your body like a science experiment you may 10 or 20 years from now become your very own Frankenstein monster. It's ironic how in the pursuit of health many get sick. Pills are not for the healthy and strong , they are for the sick and infirm.

10-11-2003, 07:24 AM	#6
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	i take... 3 flax/linseed caps (from FSC) 1 multi-vit pill 3 thermobol or thermokick metabolism enhancing pills (from mm) 4 CLA-1000 caps (also from mm) so thats 11 a day! but the 3 thermo pills are only for when i'm cutting, they will stop soon, i'll probably cut out the CLA too, coz soon i'll be on the creatine, glut and zma (along with loads of food when i go back to bulking) will i still need flax on a bulk?

10-11-2003, 08:31 AM	#10
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,586	1 multi, twelve 1,000g fish oil, currently four 1-AD, and 1 prescription med.

10-11-2003, 08:45 PM	#12
vanity Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: m Posts: 1,218 Photos: 1	You can disagree if you like. I can respect that. However, if you reach a stage in your training where you cannot "gain naturally", as you say, I would 1st question your training and diet before rushing off to the nearest pharmacy. Furthermore, The Food And Drug Administration has very limited power to regulate dietary supplements. Dangerous supplements can be sold for years before the FDA has enough complaints to launch an investigation. So basically, companies can put whatever they want into their products and make any outlandish claims they wish . Meanwhile gullible and misinformed or ignorant consumers (looking for an edge) pay ridiculous amounts of money for powders, bars, pills and potions. Do you really know what is in the supplements you take? Do you really know what the long term effects of taking them are? It would be wise to get the opinion of a registered dietician rather than blindly believing the ridiculous claims one sees in fitness magazine adds or infomercials. My 2 cents...

10-11-2003, 09:12 PM	#13
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	Well, I can't speak for anyone else on here, but I know EXACTLY what is in the pills I am taking. Also, there are MANY studies out there that show that certain products DO have benefits such as creatine, 1-AD, 1-test, etc. Also, you mention powders...are you speaking of whey protein? Of course, I agree, everyone should do their research, but that does not have to mean consulting a dietician. There are lots of publications one can find...and if you're a serious bodybuilder or weightlifter, you should have already educated yourself and continue to educate yourself on different supps. and such. You are always learning........ www.kingsburymusic.net

10-11-2003, 11:31 PM	#14
TheGreatSatan Building PC's, not Muscle Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cutting after a Year! Posts: 11,841 Photos: 16	If you want to know what is actually in what you take, look here. http://www.labelclaimstesting.com/

10-12-2003, 04:37 AM	#15
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	this thread is just a cheap shot at Rush Limbaugh isn't it, ISN"T IT!? how many pills..... for christ sake!?.........ha ha ha, lol

10-12-2003, 04:53 AM	#17
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	I really do question to myself when looking at peoples journals of ALL the stuff they are taking along with all that good food they ingest and wonder, how much of it is really necessary. Hell I may be WAYYY of track here and have a total misconception of things but I'm only going by personnel experiences. I didnt' take anything and still gained nice size and strength.

10-12-2003, 04:55 AM	#18
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	oh and protein powder is just an easy and quick way to eat a meal. I see no problems with that and shouldn't be bunched in with this pill conversation. Plus I forgot, I've increased my use of protein Powders also. I do drink them every day now.

10-12-2003, 06:44 AM	#19
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	Fire, my man, you are blessed with very good genes. People like me and Mudgey have all stinky poop genes. It sucks. I am not LAZY as vanity would suggest (since I take SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many pills, I MUST be looking for that magic pill). Well, I know improvements come incrimentally, but I am finally FINALLY making gains after starting a cycle of 1-ad after almost 2 years of PATHETIC strength gains...i tried adjusting it all, diet, workouts, sleep, etc. nothing worked....now, all lifts have gone up. maybe this is just the jolt my system needed to get going. oh, and about damn time you started the powders man! www.kingsburymusic.net

10-12-2003, 07:46 PM	#23
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	my point is that Fire isn't "anti-supps"...you were trying to pigeon-hole him into that category.. www.kingsburymusic.net

10-12-2003, 08:10 PM	#27
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	Young I saw where I said suppliments are a waist of money, over used and over rated. I also used the word "some" not all. An example is if your taking lets say a Megaman multi vitamin,, why are you also taking extra B-12 prior to a workout?? I knew someone like that. Ya look at the ingredients of like 5 things on that refridgerator and some of those ingredients are replicated in one or more of those products. that was all my point was on that.

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