I was told by Avant that Mike (1fast) bought the formula from them for use with PH/androgens. He has it under his DermaBolics label.
I was looking through 1fast400.com for some ph's and crossed upon Avant labs. I was seriously considering purchasing one+ through mike, but to my unfortunate surprise i found this:
http://www.1fast400.com/?manufacture...d40f5153deb3ba
bought out by Dermabolics Laboratories??!@!![]()
can anybody from Avant labs explain??
under what terms was this established and what does this mean for the ph department?
I was told by Avant that Mike (1fast) bought the formula from them for use with PH/androgens. He has it under his DermaBolics label.
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Same formula, smaller sizes and cheaper.
Originally posted by 1Fast400
Same formula, smaller sizes and cheaper.![]()
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i have noticed though the ratio( 1 test/4ad) between 1-test and 4ad in Dermabolics aren't the same as Avant labs?
why have yuo guys decided to change a perfect balanced ??
One+ hardly sold compared to SuperOne+. Super one+ had 6g of 1-Test and 9.375g of 4AD. The 4oz had 3g and 4.5g.


Ancient chinese secret!Originally posted by tk...
under what terms was this established
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obviously a smaller bottle is going to be cheaper, but why use a smaller bottle?Originally posted by 1Fast400
Same formula, smaller sizes and cheaper.![]()
Darned PH. Get rid of them all I say.
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Mike if you read this I agree. With a smaller bottle, you can't get the number of grams of PH into it that you could a 8 oz bottle. With only 3 g 1-test and 4.7g 4/ad, it is hard to get enough on to do me any good. I would like to see the 8 oz bottles still offered.Originally posted by Prince
obviously a smaller bottle is going to be cheaper, but why use a smaller bottle?![]()
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uhm....purchase two bottles? Super One + was $76 for 8 oz. Two bottles of the new S1+ cost you $65. Same stuff, same fluid weight, but not the same price![]()


Yeah but you still have to put twice as much on!
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