Six week cycle = 33 lbs (pictures)

**VMIgf-1** · 10-23-2003, 12:56 PM

Don't respond to this and say these products are too expensive because what you spend on quality food on a cycle should pale in comparison to what you spend on the hormones themselves!

I ran my first ever prohormone cycle 10 weeks ago. I used a stack of syngex I and II for four weeks. I had only planned on going for four weeks, but I was gaining so fast, I didn't want to stop. I then used Mag-10 for two weeks just to compare. I went from 155 lbs on the first day of my cycle (picture-obvious) to 188 on the last day of my cycle (picture-black shorts). Now, four weeks later, I am at 185 (picture was taken yesterday). I really think that the only weight I lost was a little water...What do you think? The only side effects I experienced was a little acne on my upper cheeks and swollen ankles.

I have been off for four weeks and I am about to start my new cycle. Let me know what you think.

-Syngex I (4cc twice a day = 1 serving)
-Mag 10 (3 caps twice a day = 1 serving)
-4HT cypionate (1 serving twice a day)

I know that Syngex I and Mag-10 are a combo of 1-test/4AD, but I liked them both, so I thought I would double up and just combine them. Essentially, I am just double dosing.

I am thinking about doing a competition in late February. I have never done one before, so I would apreciate any good advice. Be as brutal as you like.

**VMIgf-1** · 10-23-2003, 12:57 PM

188 Lbs

**VMIgf-1** · 10-23-2003, 12:58 PM

185 Lbs

**VMIgf-1** · 10-23-2003, 01:00 PM

Legs

**VMIgf-1** · 10-23-2003, 01:01 PM

Back

**VMIgf-1** · 10-23-2003, 01:02 PM

Back

**BabsieGirl** · 10-23-2003, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by VMIgf-1
The only side effects I experienced was a little acne on my upper cheeks and swollen ankles.

You may want to take it easy for a while.....swollen ankles is a sign of CHF. Congested Heart Failure. You're working your heart too much.

**BabsieGirl** · 10-23-2003, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by VMIgf-1
185 Lbs

You need to work your chest a little more.

**BabsieGirl** · 10-23-2003, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by VMIgf-1
Legs

Need to pack some more muscle on them legs.

Lookin good though.

**VMIgf-1** · 10-23-2003, 01:09 PM

I prioritize my chest, but it doesn't respond like everything else. Please critique me some more, I want to get better so I can compete some day.

**BabsieGirl** · 10-23-2003, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by VMIgf-1
Back

I'd work on your shrugs, romboids (spelling) and lats

**BabsieGirl** · 10-23-2003, 01:11 PM

What are you chest days like?

**BabsieGirl** · 10-23-2003, 01:14 PM

Oh...Your abs def. look better now than they did before.

I'd work on your lower back too.

You'll compete someday. If you want to compete in Feb...you better be getting on the wagon. If you're gonna continue taking supplements I think you'll make it in time. Don't over do it though. It's not worth killing yourself. Be smart.

Again, you look good. Keep up the hard work.
How old are you? Will you be competing in Teens?

**BabsieGirl** · 10-23-2003, 01:14 PM

Sorry...One more thing.....How about a shot of those calves and Hams.

**VMIgf-1** · 10-23-2003, 01:18 PM

I don't have a shot of my hams, why couldn't you just say... Get more massive. Just kidding, I love the process and I am working hard.

I am 23 and here is my diet plan. what do you think.

Yes, I am 5% BF, I am just smooth due to a little water.
I am 23 years old and 6 feet 1 inch tall.

My PCT consisted of only 6-OXO.

Diet:

5:30 a.m.
Syngex I and II
ISS Research-Blast

6:00 a.m. (lift)
BCAA stack
V-12
10 grams of arginine and glutamine

6:45 (post-workout) meal 1
1.5 servings of Surge
600 mg Hydroxyisoleucine
300 mg of R ALA

7:00 (post-workout)
1 scoop of AST VP2
1 gram of vitamin C
10 grams of glutamine
another scoop of surge (after chest, back, and legs)

8:00 meal 2
2 cups of Texmati Brown Rice
1 packet of tuna
1 cup of broccoli slaw
1 scoop of VP2

10:00 meal 3
35g of Casienate powder
1 cup of oat bran

1:00 p.m. Meal 4
same as Meal 3

4:00
Sygex and Blast

4:30 (workout)
same as before v-12...etc

5:15 (post workout) Meal 5
same as first workout

5:30 (post workout)
same as first workout

7:00 Meal 6 (yes I do eat all of this)
10 fat free flour tortillas
3 bags of shredded lettuce
1 cod fillet
1 scoop of VP2
Various Condiments (walden farm dot com)

9:30
ZMA

10:00 Meal 7 and Bed
50g of Casienate
10g of glutamine

2:00 a.m. Meal 8
50g of Casienate
10g of glutamine

I am miticulous about this diet, I do it each and every day.

**ZECH** · 10-23-2003, 02:09 PM

Here is what you will be up against. A friend of mine weighed in at less than 180. Scroll down to pic 02 and 03.
MYOSTATIN EXPERIMENT: 2 weeks in...

**BabsieGirl** · 10-23-2003, 02:10 PM

Okay...but I'd still like to see your chest work out.

**BabsieGirl** · 10-23-2003, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by dg806
Here is what you will be up against. A friend of mine weighed in at less than 180. Scroll down to pic 02 and 03.
MYOSTATIN EXPERIMENT: 2 weeks in...

Allow yourself atleast 6months............be CAREFUL on the juice!!!!

Dg806 is correct...that is what you're up against. Pretty hard competition. Especially when you're competing with guys who have juiced up for many years

I was actually getting ready to ask DG to come talk to you about your diet and supplementation.

Also, if one side is lagging you may want to try Sytenhance.

**VMIgf-1** · 10-23-2003, 02:22 PM

I really appreciate all of the advice. I don't really consider PH's juice though. I am going to keep working.

Chest Routine: every set to failure

Incline Barbell 4 X 12, 10, 8, 6

Incline Dumbell 4 X 12, 10, 8, 6

Flat Dumbell Fly 4 X 12 to 8

Cable Fly 4 X 12

Dumbell Pullover 4 X 12 to 8

I have been prioritizing my upper chest.

**BabsieGirl** · 10-23-2003, 02:29 PM

You're right...PH's aren't juice.

I'm on a "juice" kick. the word only.

What weight are you using?

Also, try switching your routine around every 6 weeks or every so often so your body doesn't get use to your work out routines.

**VMIgf-1** · 10-23-2003, 02:40 PM

To give you a general idea: keep in mind I only rest 60 seconds

Incline press, last set of 6 @155

Incline Dumbell, last set of 6 @ 70 Dumbells

Flys, 50 lb dumbells

But my strength has been going up

What I am proud of is squats
Six weeks ago, I had a hard time doing 225 for 10
Yesterday, I got 365 8 times

**topolo** · 10-23-2003, 02:48 PM

dude is your ego getting stroked enough???

here let me help: you are the biggest guy I have ever seen!!!!

and those weights on the squat..........impressive, you are the new hulk!

**VMIgf-1** · 10-23-2003, 02:59 PM

Man, its not an ego thing. I know that I am still small, I just want everyone to see what I do so they can REALLY help. Otherwise knowone really knows how to help someone on this board.

If you have some advice, let me have it!

**BabsieGirl** · 10-23-2003, 03:07 PM

Topolo -- Why are ya being hard?

**topolo** · 10-23-2003, 03:17 PM

I dont know........you can get advice without posting pictures. If he is proud of his improvements that is great.

Dude you're on the right track we all have areas we need to work on.

sorry babsie......i didnt mean to draw your ire

**Triple Threat** · 10-23-2003, 03:23 PM

Don't get Babsie angry.

She's the new sheriff in town!

**BabsieGirl** · 10-23-2003, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by CaptainDeadlift
Don't get Babsie angry.

She's the new sheriff in town!

LoL

Topolo -- I thought it was a great idea that he posted his pics. He's made great changes and he's proud of it. Heck, if I were him, I would've posted them too. By him posting his pics, it allows us to analys his progress so he can be guided in the next best direction. At least, that's how I see it.

VM -- Keep up the good work. Don't take things to heart. Don't let people get to ya. People are just voicing their opinions is all. Remember, if they can dish it.....they should be able to take it. IM is a great place. It's a world of knowledge linked into one site. People are very helpful here. You just so happen to run into one that wasn't so.....friendly off the get go.

keep your friends close and your enemies closer

**chaznad1** · 10-24-2003, 12:40 AM

ummm topolo maybe if everyone posted pictures like this kid did itll be so much easier on members to look at achievements from different products ,,, dont get mad if that kid looks better then you,, work hard at it and maybe someday youll get some results ,,,
as for you vmi ,, good start ,,, i hope you can keep all those gains , your looking good , but your going to need to add more mass to compete
areas you could improve are traps, low back , and lats,,, the rest of your body is well defined ,just needs more mass but its looking good ,,, what i would recommend you do is start clean buliking ( and do it right) while doing this start adding mass movements to your workout,,, squats, deadlifts, barbell rows, bench press to your routines,, and you do not want to work chest to failure every time, i like going heavy one week 4-8 reps( failure ) and next week will be higher reps 8-12 ,, itll shock your muscles to growth ,,, keep at this for a while and youll grow

**BabsieGirl** · 10-24-2003, 08:40 AM

Chaz -- that was a little immature what you said about Topolo. that was stooping down to his level.

CALM DOWN

VM -- Chaz is right. You don't want to go to failure every time you work out. I think there is a thread of that topic....check it out...Chould be in the training section. I still think you need to work on your chest.

**VMIgf-1** · 10-24-2003, 09:18 AM

I did chest this morning. I did straight sets with 8 and Only went to failure on the last set of each exercise.

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