after 1-AD ??

**jmr1979** · 10-25-2003, 04:32 AM

ok i am going to be starting 1-AD here today i already know the dosage i am going to use on that. it is as follows
week one 3 caps
week two 4 caps
week three 5 caps
week four 4 caps until second bottle is gone

on the 6OXO i was going to go with 3 pills a day for 20 days and a creatine load of optimum nutritions creatine powder i was wondering if that dosage of 6 OXO with the creatine would be enough to keep my gains?? if not should i get another bottle of 6OXO and what dosage should i use on it?? any input would be great

**HoldDaMayo** · 10-25-2003, 08:39 AM

I'm very interested to see the results here... as next week I'm starting my 1-AD cycle and have my 6-oxo already purchased for my off cycle...

**justyjust** · 10-25-2003, 10:54 AM

i have been useing Ergopharm ad-1 i have just about finished in a couple of days time. I had two bottles to start with' and i had been takeing 4 pills a day one in the morning one mid day and two at night with a protein shake always with meals. i have put on a lot of muscle weight and looking a lot bigger well worth a try. only thing is my sex drive is down the drain

also a little spotty and hair got greasy but that just shows they do work. best stuff i have tryed

**HoldDaMayo** · 10-25-2003, 11:17 AM

just out of curiousity... sex drive going down the drain means you just don't think about sex... or you physically are not able to perform? I need some clarity here...

**JerseyDevil** · 10-26-2003, 02:14 AM

Just got done telling jmr in a PM that I can wholeheartedly endorse Ergo's 1-AD. I have three days left in a 4 week cycle. Right now I'm up almost 8 lbs, and cut 4-1/2 lbs of body fat. My bench went up 20 lbs. Considering the fact I'm on a cutting diet of 2,500 calories a day, this is pretty awesome. My bench had been stuck for about a year ...

Yeah, the 1-AD drives down your libido. You can perform, but you'll probably find your interest level is way down. It's weird, and I wasn't sure I believed it, but it is definitely true. Just proves how much your hormones influence sex drive. I'm 47, so it was maybe a bigger (or should I say smaller ) problem with me.

**jmr1979** · 10-26-2003, 04:51 AM

thanks for the info jersey i will let u know of my results

**justyjust** · 10-26-2003, 06:00 AM

i read about ad-1 on there web site or im a mag and it said you dont need any anti estrogen supplement like oxo. so i dont think you will grow any tits from that stuff

**jmr1979** · 10-26-2003, 06:04 AM

6OXO isn't for tits its to bring my normal test levels back up to par. this will help keep my gains cause i had been supplementing test into my body thats why u need 6OXO

**Rocco32** · 10-26-2003, 07:23 AM

Will it still work to take 6-oxo if you stopped 1-ad a week and a half ago. So I haven't had anything for almost two weeks. Should I still take the 6-oxo?

**HoldDaMayo** · 10-26-2003, 07:48 AM

how much 1-ad were you taking? I think taking the recommended dosage for a 4 week cycle you can benefit slightly from the 6-oxo... your body will fully recover without it... just a bit slower... I think 6-oxo helps you to get back your body's chemical balances a bit sooner...

**Rocco32** · 10-26-2003, 07:51 AM

I was up to 7 caps a day. I had to end it early because my muscles were getting stronger much faster than my tendons. It was fun while it lasted!

**justyjust** · 10-26-2003, 02:53 PM

7 caps a day bloody hell i have been doing 4 but 7 thats a lot you must have been walking around like a zombie. have you had any other side effects than the norm??? and (holdthemayo) change the pic you a girl or what

**HoldDaMayo** · 10-26-2003, 02:54 PM

oh c'mon... leave my girl alone... she's fine right where she is =)

**Rocco32** · 10-26-2003, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by justyjust
7 caps a day bloody hell i have been doing 4 but 7 thats a lot you must have been walking around like a zombie. have you had any other side effects than the norm??? and (holdthemayo) change the pic you a girl or what

The only noticeable side effect was lack of libido. But I think I would have been fine with 4-ad. I'll do that next time. And my strength went through the roof for me. Way more than my tendons and ligaments could keep up with!

**ST240** · 10-26-2003, 09:49 PM

uh oh..... i didnt take any 6-oxo after my cycle.... what does that mean?

**Rocco32** · 10-26-2003, 10:04 PM

And Justyjust, i slowly increased how many I was taking, I didn't jump in taking 7 tabs, I started with 3 a day and added an extra pill a week.

**ZECH** · 10-27-2003, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by ST240
uh oh..... i didnt take any 6-oxo after my cycle.... what does that mean?

Your screwed!

**Rocco32** · 10-27-2003, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by dg806
Your screwed!

OK now explain DG, I didn't take any either...

**ZECH** · 10-27-2003, 06:35 AM

Seriously, that is why it is so important to research and know what the supps you are taking do and what you have to do to counteract these affects.

**Rocco32** · 10-27-2003, 06:38 AM

I did research DG, I know you should take 6-oxo but my cycle was interrupted in the middle by a training injury. I just stopped the 1-ad and posted here whether I should continue taking supplements during my time off including 6-oxo and the response (which was only one person) was no, to stop everything except glutamine. I stopped 1-ad 2 weeks ago, should I still take 6-oxo now?

**ZECH** · 10-27-2003, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by rock4832
OK now explain DG, I didn't take any either...

Any PH or steriod will inhibit natural test production. Any gains you make while on these, you will probably loose as soon as you finish. Why? Your natural test production will be low and not be able to support the new muscle growth. 6-0xo and other drugs will help elevate quickly your natural test production to where it was pre cycle and thus you are able to maintain gains easier.

**ZECH** · 10-27-2003, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by rock4832
I did research DG, I know you should take 6-oxo but my cycle was interrupted in the middle by a training injury. I just stopped the 1-ad and posted here whether I should continue taking supplements during my time off including 6-oxo and the response (which was only one person) was no, to stop everything except glutamine. I stopped 1-ad 2 weeks ago, should I still take 6-oxo now?

You must rely on your own knowledge. Not someone else's. If your not sure, don't do it! You just left your body in a suppressed state, which is not good. It really depends on how long you were on, and how your body is reacting now. You may or may not need it.

**Rocco32** · 10-27-2003, 06:44 AM

Alright, thanks DG. I think I probably should still take the 6-oxo then.

**ZECH** · 10-27-2003, 06:46 AM

Rock, I'm not knocking you or anyone else here! Please understand that. But one of the reasons PH are under the gun right now is because of issues like these. People taking supps and are uninformed on what they do. That is why the government feels they must step in. They do not think people are educated enough on these issues and they feel they must regulate them. And in some cases I agree!

**ZECH** · 10-27-2003, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by rock4832
Alright, thanks DG. I think I probably should still take the 6-oxo then.

It certainly will not hurt!

**candu** · 10-27-2003, 07:07 AM

Just a question for future reference.

Do you start taking the 6-OXO the last week of taking 1-AD or after the 1-AD cycle is completely over? Will this help jump start normal test levels sooner?

**Rocco32** · 10-27-2003, 08:52 AM

DG- I know I lost most of my gains from this cycle, when can I do another cycle since this one was interrupted?

**ZECH** · 10-27-2003, 08:56 AM

2-4 weeks would be a good bet

**ZECH** · 10-27-2003, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by candu
Just a question for future reference.

Do you start taking the 6-OXO the last week of taking 1-AD or after the 1-AD cycle is completely over? Will this help jump start normal test levels sooner?

Start it the day you get off cycle. As long as you are still taking a PH, it won't do any good as the ph will still be depresing test levels. But the half life is hours. That is why you start the next day. With some steriods the half lives are days or weeks. Some you may not start post cycle for two weeks. Depends on what you take.

**Rocco32** · 10-27-2003, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by dg806
2-4 weeks would be a good bet

Thanks alot DG, and I can start the day after I end 6-oxo?

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