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I'm currently looking for a good anti-estrogen supplement to take care of a little gyno. Out of the products below, which do you suggest ?
6-OXO Aromadex Aromazap Estrodex Vitex
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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did u get gyno from taking a PH or this just gyno in general?
Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.
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Super Hero in Training
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Kabul, Afghanistan
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I have a couple weeks of a 1-test, 4ad cycle to go...and was suggested I try 6-oxo to balance things out...is that the best or others better?
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Also interested in the above... More specifically, how do the other products compare to 6-OXO ?
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Might want to add Formastat to the list of the OP as well.. IS there like an FAQ that deals with this stuff because I'm pretty sure this can't be the first time this has come up.
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I've had a minor case of it from puberty a while ago but it isnt going away ( 2 years later ) and im so sick of this shit im gonna go insane
I have a low bf% so it looks horrible. Any help would be great
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Guardian of The Homeland
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Charlotte NC
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These will work to restore test/estrogen balance, but will probably do nothing for the gyno you have. You may have to have it surgically removed.
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Super Hero in Training
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Kabul, Afghanistan
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yo, old man!
what, in your opinion, is the bettter of the products, though?
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Agreed. I would personally like to know if any of the products listed are worth buying at all when compared to 6OXO. Should one consider any of those products beside 6OXO ?
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Guardian of The Homeland
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Charlotte NC
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You have products that do different things listed. Like Aromazap will work better during cycle to counteract any estrogen related effects and 6-oxo will work better to raise test after cycle. Have to compare apples to apples. Many people think they are the same, but they are not.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Are any of the items listed comparable to 6OXO or is that really the only choice for jump-starting the post-cycle test production?
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Guardian of The Homeland
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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6-oxo and aromadex will work post cycle.
Aromazap and estrodex will work better while on cycle to prevent androgens from converting into estrogen. |
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Super Hero in Training
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Kabul, Afghanistan
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sweet, thanks!
Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results
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Dieting I swear!
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Once the gyno sits and calcifies though supposedly you cannot remove it without surgery. JGUNS GYNOBUSTER 80 MG ED Nolva 4 weeks 40 MG ED Nolva 4 weeks 20 MG ED Nolva until complete resolution, or until cycle is over. The time frame can vary depending on your own progress. The key is to not step the dosage down until you see a good reduction in size. The optimum time to start treatment is withing a month or two of symptoms starting to occur. There is some evidence to show that one the tissues become more well defined, it is harder to treat the gyno, making surgery the only real option. This probably takes around 12 months to occur. |
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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does anybody have any input about E-Form by Dermabolics. It's a trandermal anti-estrogen, i would like to know whether or not it stimulates a rize in test. levels...
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Guardian of The Homeland
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Charlotte NC
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E-form contains Formestane, a “suicide inhibitor”. This substance reduces excess estrogen in the body by blocking the production of estrogen from androgenic precursors. E-Form should be an effective estrogen controller, and can alleviate the estrogenic side-effects associated with the use of aromatizable androgens, during a cycle. (not post cycle) But like I tell everyone, some estrogen is your friend. I would not want to block all estrogen during a bulk cycle.
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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would E-Form be effective when used in a post cycle? would it stimulate test level back to normal like 6-oxo?
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Guardian of The Homeland
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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No not near as good.
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