Started the M1T early...

prolangtum · 12-24-2003, 10:11 AM

What isn't Mag-10 130% bioavailable!!!!

j/k

samat631 · 12-24-2003, 01:01 PM

lol no doubt...
does ur body need higher estrogen levels when u have higher test levels?

**Mudge** · 12-24-2003, 01:34 PM

It naturally occurs, however estrogen in the male body comes from aromitization. Aromatase enzymes lie in the male bodyfat, this is why higher bodyfat levels are not wise when cycling, or bulking for that matter.

samat631 · 12-25-2003, 04:10 PM

i just read on a different forum that m1-t will be illegal soon...? what do u guys think?

**Mudge** · 12-25-2003, 04:12 PM

Some people are guessing 6 months, for this price, if you like the product - stock up. Of course this would still mean you would be breaking the law if you used it when the law passed.

samat631 · 12-25-2003, 04:14 PM

but its easily accessible right now. i could never get my hands on gear plus the fact that real gear is way more expensive and hardcore. do u use m1-t urself mudge? or the real shit?

**Mudge** · 12-25-2003, 04:40 PM

Way more expensive and hardcore?

Pricing always varies man, I've seen someone marking up a product twice what it cost from the "original" source.

Funny. I dont use it by itself no. Honestly I am wary of it being a weight gainer at all other than in small amounts, lots of conflicting information out there right now. Some gain weight like anadrol and some only get fina like results, strength and vascularity with small amounts of 'quality' muscle gains.

I have just started using it so I have nothing to say about it first hand, 20mg a day, if after a week I am dissapointed I will try 30mg a day.

With the results people get on it, I would try it at least once, before 1-AD or anything else.

samat631 · 12-25-2003, 04:44 PM

wow thats suprizing....this guy dave said it costs about $600 !! for a cycle, of the skin stuff...but he didnt even say what kind....i was just like..."ummmm..."

**Dale Mabry** · 12-25-2003, 06:39 PM

Well, I found access to a comp. My gains have stayed and my strength is still where it was. My nuts shrank, but after 1 week on 6 pills of 6-oxo, they are back, but I will finish the 2 bottles anyway. The cramps took a bit to go away, but they were very mild, hardly even noticeable. Well, that be it, happy holidays to you all.

**Mudge** · 12-25-2003, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by samat631
wow thats suprizing....this guy dave said it costs about $600 !! for a cycle, of the skin stuff...but he didnt even say what kind....i was just like..."ummmm..."

Skin stuff? For acne or what, that would be Accutane which costs me 50 cents for 20mg - which puts me at 2 dollars a day.

samat631 · 12-25-2003, 07:04 PM

what a deal....

prolangtum · 12-26-2003, 01:36 AM

I would stay away from accutane, very harsh on the liver. If acne is a problem, I would use high dose B5, it virtually eliminates my on cycle acne.

**Mudge** · 12-26-2003, 07:29 AM

I was hitting 12g of B5, it helps, but apperantly was not converting well enough in my body to do anything near what accutane could do.

Off cycle I bet it would have been much more effective.

MTN WARRIOR · 12-26-2003, 07:55 AM

I understand the negatives of booze, but I have noticed specifics about people not using booze at all during 1-Test/M-1T cycles. Are there other side effects other than dropping test production, shitty calories etc?

MTN WARRIOR · 12-26-2003, 07:59 AM

Sorry, one other question. Trying to buy 6-OXO on kilsports, what is its trues name, cant seem to find it?

**Mudge** · 12-26-2003, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MTN WARRIOR
I understand the negatives of booze, but I have noticed specifics about people not using booze at all during 1-Test/M-1T cycles. Are there other side effects other than dropping test production, shitty calories etc?

If you are putting a strain on your liver why do double duty, plus what is the point of being an alcoholic and lifter at the same time? A drink or two a week is hardly a big deal, but if you are a daily drinker it hardly seems to fit the lifestyle.

prolangtum · 12-26-2003, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MTN WARRIOR
Sorry, one other question. Trying to buy 6-OXO on kilsports, what is its trues name, cant seem to find it?

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?produc...d8a7b941397e60

$5 a gram, androstenetrione

samat631 · 12-26-2003, 05:53 PM

i got hawthorn berry, and dandelion root extract today for my post cycle therapy....when ever i decide to do a cycle of m1-t.... i know i know, still more stuff to buy....

plouffe · 12-28-2003, 12:25 AM

Milk Thistle + NAC + VITIMAN B-COMPLEX.. Try just getting a Liver Support Supplment with abunch of shit in it..

**Mudge** · 12-28-2003, 01:01 AM

Tylers Liver Detox is the "liver support supplement with abunch of shit in it"

You will pay out the rear for it too.

MTN WARRIOR · 12-29-2003, 07:12 AM

I'm not a boozer Mudge, thanks for the concern though. I did get bombed once on 1-T and probably had 3 beers the rest of the month total.

12-24-2003, 10:11 AM	#91
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12-24-2003, 01:34 PM	#93
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12-25-2003, 06:39 PM	#99
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12-26-2003, 01:36 AM	#102
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	I would stay away from accutane, very harsh on the liver. If acne is a problem, I would use high dose B5, it virtually eliminates my on cycle acne. Mod @ Bulknutrition Forums Mod @ superiormuscle.com Mod @ steroidsupport.com Designersupps.com Bulknutrition.com Blackstarlabs.com

12-26-2003, 07:55 AM	#104
MTN WARRIOR HOOAH!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOOAHVILLE Posts: 604	I understand the negatives of booze, but I have noticed specifics about people not using booze at all during 1-Test/M-1T cycles. Are there other side effects other than dropping test production, shitty calories etc? THAT WHICH DOES NOT KILL ME, CERTAINLY MUST MAKE ME STRONGER

12-24-2003, 01:01 PM	#92
samat631 sammy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Long island new york Posts: 191 Photos: 2	lol no doubt... does ur body need higher estrogen levels when u have higher test levels?

12-25-2003, 04:10 PM	#94
samat631 sammy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Long island new york Posts: 191 Photos: 2	i just read on a different forum that m1-t will be illegal soon...? what do u guys think?

12-25-2003, 04:12 PM	#95
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Some people are guessing 6 months, for this price, if you like the product - stock up. Of course this would still mean you would be breaking the law if you used it when the law passed.

12-25-2003, 04:14 PM	#96
samat631 sammy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Long island new york Posts: 191 Photos: 2	but its easily accessible right now. i could never get my hands on gear plus the fact that real gear is way more expensive and hardcore. do u use m1-t urself mudge? or the real shit?

12-25-2003, 04:40 PM	#97
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Way more expensive and hardcore? Pricing always varies man, I've seen someone marking up a product twice what it cost from the "original" source. Funny. I dont use it by itself no. Honestly I am wary of it being a weight gainer at all other than in small amounts, lots of conflicting information out there right now. Some gain weight like anadrol and some only get fina like results, strength and vascularity with small amounts of 'quality' muscle gains. I have just started using it so I have nothing to say about it first hand, 20mg a day, if after a week I am dissapointed I will try 30mg a day. With the results people get on it, I would try it at least once, before 1-AD or anything else.

12-25-2003, 04:44 PM	#98
samat631 sammy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Long island new york Posts: 191 Photos: 2	wow thats suprizing....this guy dave said it costs about $600 !! for a cycle, of the skin stuff...but he didnt even say what kind....i was just like..."ummmm..."

12-25-2003, 07:04 PM	#101
samat631 sammy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Long island new york Posts: 191 Photos: 2	what a deal....

12-26-2003, 07:29 AM	#103
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	I was hitting 12g of B5, it helps, but apperantly was not converting well enough in my body to do anything near what accutane could do. Off cycle I bet it would have been much more effective.

12-26-2003, 07:59 AM	#105
MTN WARRIOR HOOAH!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOOAHVILLE Posts: 604	Sorry, one other question. Trying to buy 6-OXO on kilsports, what is its trues name, cant seem to find it? THAT WHICH DOES NOT KILL ME, CERTAINLY MUST MAKE ME STRONGER

12-26-2003, 05:53 PM	#108
samat631 sammy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Long island new york Posts: 191 Photos: 2	i got hawthorn berry, and dandelion root extract today for my post cycle therapy....when ever i decide to do a cycle of m1-t.... i know i know, still more stuff to buy....

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12-28-2003, 12:25 AM	#109
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	Milk Thistle + NAC + VITIMAN B-COMPLEX.. Try just getting a Liver Support Supplment with abunch of shit in it.. These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65

12-28-2003, 01:01 AM	#110
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Tylers Liver Detox is the "liver support supplement with abunch of shit in it" You will pay out the rear for it too. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

12-29-2003, 07:12 AM	#111
MTN WARRIOR HOOAH!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOOAHVILLE Posts: 604	I'm not a boozer Mudge, thanks for the concern though. I did get bombed once on 1-T and probably had 3 beers the rest of the month total. THAT WHICH DOES NOT KILL ME, CERTAINLY MUST MAKE ME STRONGER