pro's and con's about being always in anabolic state

tk... · 11-28-2003, 10:00 PM

a'm going to start my S1+ along with my miscelean vpx and nectar this week-end and was curious what exactly would the pro's and cons 's be of almost always being in anabolic state??

besides the obvious of muscle development, not too sure what type of answers am looking for, am just trying to further my knowledge

nacnac972 · 11-28-2003, 10:20 PM

I just did my first ever p/h cycle.I used vpx syngex I and II.I was parnoid about gyno for the first week.After reading further and asking questions i realized it was a long shot.I had zero side effects except for parinoia.You will be fine just eat alot drink lots of water and no alcohol

**Mudge** · 11-28-2003, 10:36 PM

Are you talking about trying to use this stuff year round?

If you want children, or to avoid being on for the rest of your life, dont. Cycle it as others do.

tk... · 11-28-2003, 10:47 PM

i think u guys misunderstood my question. I am not by any means going to cycle all year around, i got my post cycle ready. I am just asking out of curiosity whether or not there are any bad consequences or good ones about being in anabolic state.

Anabolic obviosuly leads to muscle grows, but i have never heard of any bad feedbacks in regards to being in that state for too long..

like i mentioned above, am using s1+/miscellean by vpx and nectar/, so for that month a'm going to be always in anabolic state. I just want to know what i should expect (pro's and con's)

yes i know it doesnt make too much sense, but bare with me

**Mudge** · 11-28-2003, 11:00 PM

If you cycle like you should, then you should have nothing negative to worry about - in the short term gyno is a possibility, so have something on hand for that.

nacnac972 · 11-28-2003, 11:39 PM

Yeah try Nolvadex for gyno.As mudge will tell you you can get it from a research company.He will not agree with the fact that you can order it from overseas in 90 day or less supply.I got mine from costa rica went through US customs and they opened the package inspected it and I still recieved it.So anyway it is available.

**Mudge** · 11-29-2003, 12:05 AM

Some people cross the border with drugs, some dont - it all depends on your luck and what customs officials/border gaurds you come across.

SJ69 · 11-29-2003, 12:18 AM

Where can you order clomid or nolvadex legally? I've heard about getting clomid from a research co., What's the deal with that? Which Co's sell it for "reasearch purp"?

**Mudge** · 11-29-2003, 12:40 AM

One of them is a sponsor of the board, there are probably around a dozen of these research companies still operating.

http://www.ironmagazine.com/cgi-bin/...ect.cgi?site=3

SJ69 · 11-29-2003, 12:43 AM

Awesome, thanks for the link, I giess there's no reason to bother with 6OXO when you can get the real thing.

SJ69 · 11-29-2003, 12:51 AM

I saw that the Nolva and Clo are liquid, should they then be injected IM w/ a 25ga?
Being that it says "Clo" and "Nolva" are they actually the same compund as in Nolvadex and Clomid??

**Mudge** · 11-29-2003, 01:51 AM

Do not inject that stuff, period. It is suspended in 190 proof alcohol, use it orally.

Yes it is the same.

tk... · 11-29-2003, 02:25 PM

why are people so scared of gyno?? personally i couldn't care less, it's probably cuz a'm young and dont look ahead, but that's not even a concern for me,,my 2 cent

**Mudge** · 11-29-2003, 02:51 PM

People and thier fear of gyno is entirely ridiculous, if you take precautions you can eliminate it or avoid it entirely.

If people dont want to learn these things on thier own, then fear that keeps them away is a good thing, let them stick to creatine.

11-28-2003, 10:00 PM	#1
tk... Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 118	pro's and con's about being always in anabolic state a'm going to start my S1+ along with my miscelean vpx and nectar this week-end and was curious what exactly would the pro's and cons 's be of almost always being in anabolic state?? besides the obvious of muscle development, not too sure what type of answers am looking for, am just trying to further my knowledge

11-28-2003, 10:36 PM	#3
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,470 Photos: 1	Are you talking about trying to use this stuff year round? If you want children, or to avoid being on for the rest of your life, dont. Cycle it as others do. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

11-29-2003, 12:43 AM	#10
SJ69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 1,061 Photos: 1	Awesome, thanks for the link, I giess there's no reason to bother with 6OXO when you can get the real thing. "I don't like small cars or real big women, but somehow I always find myself in 'em" - KR

11-29-2003, 12:51 AM	#11
SJ69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 1,061 Photos: 1	I saw that the Nolva and Clo are liquid, should they then be injected IM w/ a 25ga? Being that it says "Clo" and "Nolva" are they actually the same compund as in Nolvadex and Clomid?? "I don't like small cars or real big women, but somehow I always find myself in 'em" - KR

11-29-2003, 01:51 AM	#12
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,470 Photos: 1	Do not inject that stuff, period. It is suspended in 190 proof alcohol, use it orally. Yes it is the same. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

11-28-2003, 10:20 PM	#2
nacnac972 MX Racer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SF bay area Posts: 159	I just did my first ever p/h cycle.I used vpx syngex I and II.I was parnoid about gyno for the first week.After reading further and asking questions i realized it was a long shot.I had zero side effects except for parinoia.You will be fine just eat alot drink lots of water and no alcohol

11-28-2003, 10:47 PM	#4
tk... Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 118	i think u guys misunderstood my question. I am not by any means going to cycle all year around, i got my post cycle ready. I am just asking out of curiosity whether or not there are any bad consequences or good ones about being in anabolic state. Anabolic obviosuly leads to muscle grows, but i have never heard of any bad feedbacks in regards to being in that state for too long.. like i mentioned above, am using s1+/miscellean by vpx and nectar/, so for that month a'm going to be always in anabolic state. I just want to know what i should expect (pro's and con's) yes i know it doesnt make too much sense, but bare with me

11-28-2003, 11:00 PM	#5
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,470 Photos: 1	If you cycle like you should, then you should have nothing negative to worry about - in the short term gyno is a possibility, so have something on hand for that.

11-28-2003, 11:39 PM	#6
nacnac972 MX Racer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SF bay area Posts: 159	Yeah try Nolvadex for gyno.As mudge will tell you you can get it from a research company.He will not agree with the fact that you can order it from overseas in 90 day or less supply.I got mine from costa rica went through US customs and they opened the package inspected it and I still recieved it.So anyway it is available.

11-29-2003, 12:05 AM	#7
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,470 Photos: 1	Some people cross the border with drugs, some dont - it all depends on your luck and what customs officials/border gaurds you come across.

11-29-2003, 12:18 AM	#8
SJ69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 1,061 Photos: 1	Where can you order clomid or nolvadex legally? I've heard about getting clomid from a research co., What's the deal with that? Which Co's sell it for "reasearch purp"?

11-29-2003, 12:40 AM	#9
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,470 Photos: 1	One of them is a sponsor of the board, there are probably around a dozen of these research companies still operating. http://www.ironmagazine.com/cgi-bin/...ect.cgi?site=3

11-29-2003, 02:25 PM	#13
tk... Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 118	why are people so scared of gyno?? personally i couldn't care less, it's probably cuz a'm young and dont look ahead, but that's not even a concern for me,,my 2 cent

11-29-2003, 02:51 PM	#14
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,470 Photos: 1	People and thier fear of gyno is entirely ridiculous, if you take precautions you can eliminate it or avoid it entirely. If people dont want to learn these things on thier own, then fear that keeps them away is a good thing, let them stick to creatine.

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