Good PH Cutting Supplement

andyo · 12-05-2003, 08:56 AM

What is a good brand PH for Cutting?

gopro · 12-05-2003, 10:12 AM

From VPX these are the best for cutting purposes:

-Xenabol (5AA)
-EQ (1, 4 ADD)
-4-HT (4-hydroxytestosterone)
-4-OHD (hydroxy-nandrolone decanoate)

andyo · 12-07-2003, 08:34 AM

GoPro, I really am at a weight that I just want to maintain post-holiday, and lose BF, will any of these cause excess water retention or weight gain?

Twin Peak · 12-07-2003, 09:18 AM

The best PH/PS compounds for cutting would be, IMO, M1T, 1-test, and 1, 4 andro (boldione) in that order. Pick the brand you feel most comfortable with, that is well regarded, has good feedback, and is priced within your budget.

andyo · 12-08-2003, 06:09 AM

Thanks for the input Twin, but what about the rest of my question?

Twin Peak · 12-08-2003, 09:05 AM

Everyone will have a different opinion on brand. To be honest, I haven't paid much attention to PH brands lately.

But here are my thoughts, based on quality and price:

If you want M1T, I'd go with kilosports.

If you want 1, 4 andro, I'd go with 1fast400 brand.

If you want 1 test, I'd go with a good transdermal, such as dermabolics brand (from 1fast400). If you didn't want dermabolics, you might just want to high dose Ergopharm's 1 AD. VPX's 1-Test product is good too, I just have trouble recommending it due to the price. There are a few other decent brands, but I don't know enough about them to recommend them.

**dg806** · 12-08-2003, 09:21 AM

Other good transdermals are BDC's and Legalgear's.
If you want to do it yourself and save money........http://www.lemelange.com/body_builder_supplies.htm
Just find you a powder source and then add it to your mix.

gopro · 12-08-2003, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andyo
GoPro, I really am at a weight that I just want to maintain post-holiday, and lose BF, will any of these cause excess water retention or weight gain?

You won't get water retention from 4-HT, 1, 4 ADD, or 5aa, and probably not much, if any, weight gain either. While 1-Test does not cause water retention, you will probably add several lbs, but all of it muscle.

12-05-2003, 08:56 AM	#1
andyo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: WVA Posts: 369	Good PH Cutting Supplement What is a good brand PH for Cutting? To achieve Success is certaily tough..but keeping it, much tougher!

12-05-2003, 10:12 AM	#2
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,894	From VPX these are the best for cutting purposes: -Xenabol (5AA) -EQ (1, 4 ADD) -4-HT (4-hydroxytestosterone) -4-OHD (hydroxy-nandrolone decanoate) All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

12-07-2003, 08:34 AM	#3
andyo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: WVA Posts: 369	GoPro, I really am at a weight that I just want to maintain post-holiday, and lose BF, will any of these cause excess water retention or weight gain? To achieve Success is certaily tough..but keeping it, much tougher!

12-07-2003, 09:18 AM	#4
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	The best PH/PS compounds for cutting would be, IMO, M1T, 1-test, and 1, 4 andro (boldione) in that order. Pick the brand you feel most comfortable with, that is well regarded, has good feedback, and is priced within your budget. www.DesignerSupps.com INTELLIGENT DESIGN™...lands on 1/1/2007 www.intelligentdesignmag.com

12-08-2003, 06:09 AM	#5
andyo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: WVA Posts: 369	Thanks for the input Twin, but what about the rest of my question? To achieve Success is certaily tough..but keeping it, much tougher!

12-08-2003, 09:05 AM	#6
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	Everyone will have a different opinion on brand. To be honest, I haven't paid much attention to PH brands lately. But here are my thoughts, based on quality and price: If you want M1T, I'd go with kilosports. If you want 1, 4 andro, I'd go with 1fast400 brand. If you want 1 test, I'd go with a good transdermal, such as dermabolics brand (from 1fast400). If you didn't want dermabolics, you might just want to high dose Ergopharm's 1 AD. VPX's 1-Test product is good too, I just have trouble recommending it due to the price. There are a few other decent brands, but I don't know enough about them to recommend them. www.DesignerSupps.com INTELLIGENT DESIGN™...lands on 1/1/2007 www.intelligentdesignmag.com

12-08-2003, 09:21 AM	#7
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,196	Other good transdermals are BDC's and Legalgear's. If you want to do it yourself and save money........http://www.lemelange.com/body_builder_supplies.htm Just find you a powder source and then add it to your mix. 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

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