1-test and the Liver

bludevil · 12-05-2003, 12:12 PM

Just thought I would give you guys an FYI.
I've read on this board where 1-test is stressful on the liver, so I decided to get bloodwork done in the middle of my 1-test cycle. The normal range for liver is 1 -40. Mine was 77, almost double the average. Also note that I was taking 525mg of Milk Thistle 3 times a day. Basically taking milk thistle 3 to 1 of 1 test. Don't know what this high mark really means, just thought you guys might be interested in how stessfull 1-test is on liver.

**Prince** · 12-05-2003, 12:17 PM

are you taking 1-test orally?

**Mudge** · 12-05-2003, 12:19 PM

Thing is though, once you come off liver values return to normal in a matter of weeks UNLESS you have a problem already.

Bluedevil is the last person I'd expect to inject Prince

He says wrestlers are all natural.

While I'm here, thanks to Tank for this information

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**Prince** · 12-05-2003, 12:22 PM

I was not referring to injections, you can use a transdermal.

**Mudge** · 12-05-2003, 12:23 PM

It still hits the liver regardless, however when taken orally it goes 2 passes not 1.

bludevil · 12-05-2003, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by Mudge
Bluedevil is the last person I'd expect to inject Prince

He says wrestlers are all natural.

You must be thinking of someone else, I've never said anything about wrestlers, not unless I was joking. Besides, who thinks Brock Lessner and Triple H aren't natural

Yeah I was thinking liver values would go back down when coming off ph's. I'm getting more blood work done in 3 months to see how much 1-test contributed to high reading.

BTW prince, it was oral. Nutrex 1-TU specifically. I was only taking 150mg a day at time of bloodwork or 1 pill 3 times a day.

One more question though, does 6oxo put undo stress on the liver?

**Mudge** · 12-05-2003, 12:49 PM

I must be losing brain cells

I guess sniffing gasoline was a bad idea all those years.

Understanding liver values

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=23142 (Understanding liver values)

http://www.liverdoctor.com/

Reversibility of the effects on blood cells, lipids, liver function and hormones in former anabolic-androgenic steroid abusers.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=21053 (Recovery after calling it quits)

**dg806** · 12-05-2003, 12:59 PM

Anything you take orally can effect the liver. Even vitamins taken in large quantities, can stress the liver. This is why you always hear the term CYCLE.

**Mudge** · 12-05-2003, 04:21 PM

Ascorbic acid, Tylenol, etc etc

topolo · 12-05-2003, 06:39 PM

what is a good amount of milk thistle to take during a cycle?

DWIPump · 12-05-2003, 07:26 PM

Blue,
I have a ?, How did you like 1-TU?

bludevil · 12-05-2003, 10:59 PM

overall I liked it. Had good strength gains and seemed to be more harder. Only physical side effect I had with it, was it made my lower back sore. The most I've ever benched was 295 and on my last day of the cycle I got 310 up 2 times without a spotter.

12-05-2003, 12:12 PM	#1
bludevil To God be the Glory Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WeightRoom Posts: 1,518 Photos: 25	1-test and the Liver Just thought I would give you guys an FYI. I've read on this board where 1-test is stressful on the liver, so I decided to get bloodwork done in the middle of my 1-test cycle. The normal range for liver is 1 -40. Mine was 77, almost double the average. Also note that I was taking 525mg of Milk Thistle 3 times a day. Basically taking milk thistle 3 to 1 of 1 test. Don't know what this high mark really means, just thought you guys might be interested in how stessfull 1-test is on liver.

12-05-2003, 12:17 PM	#2
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12-05-2003, 12:22 PM	#4
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,395 Photos: 356	I was not referring to injections, you can use a transdermal. BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore IronMagLabs.com - Bodybuilding Nutrition AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders & Supplements CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding & Training Blog Maximizer.com - Maximum Strength for Maximum Performance MikeGetsRipped.com - The Original 'Get Ripped' Blog ProteinRoutine.com - Experiments in Healthy Living Follow on Twitter Join Facebook Group Befriend on Myspace

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dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,196	Anything you take orally can effect the liver. Even vitamins taken in large quantities, can stress the liver. This is why you always hear the term CYCLE. 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

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12-05-2003, 12:23 PM	#5
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,474 Photos: 1	It still hits the liver regardless, however when taken orally it goes 2 passes not 1.

12-05-2003, 12:49 PM	#7
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,474 Photos: 1	I must be losing brain cells I guess sniffing gasoline was a bad idea all those years. Understanding liver values http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=23142 (Understanding liver values) http://www.liverdoctor.com/ Reversibility of the effects on blood cells, lipids, liver function and hormones in former anabolic-androgenic steroid abusers. http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=21053 (Recovery after calling it quits)

12-05-2003, 04:21 PM	#9
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,474 Photos: 1	Ascorbic acid, Tylenol, etc etc

12-05-2003, 07:26 PM	#11
DWIPump Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: IL Posts: 49	Blue, I have a ?, How did you like 1-TU?

12-05-2003, 10:59 PM	#12
bludevil To God be the Glory Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WeightRoom Posts: 1,518 Photos: 25	overall I liked it. Had good strength gains and seemed to be more harder. Only physical side effect I had with it, was it made my lower back sore. The most I've ever benched was 295 and on my last day of the cycle I got 310 up 2 times without a spotter.