M 1-T First week results...

**gopro** · 12-12-2003, 08:45 PM

Ok, bodyweight is up from 230 to 233 (bodyfat still 6%...no change). There has been no change in diet, training, or other supplements, so the weight gain is attributed to the M 1-T.

Other comments:

-I am stronger in the gym in several major lifts.
-I am VERY lethargic during the day.
-I am more vascular and have a pumped look in my forearms all day.
-No side effects to speak of...no libido changes, no acne, no aggression, no appetite change.

We'll see what week 2 brings. Then its one week off.

**SJ69** · 12-12-2003, 09:33 PM

Cool, good gains, my experience seems similar after 5 days.
What's your daily dose? Are you going to use 6OXO post or something more perscription like in nature?

**Mudge** · 12-13-2003, 12:20 AM

Takes longer than a week for acne to set in. Even anadrol/dbol doesn't make me lethargic...

Daily dose would be nice to know

**gopro** · 12-13-2003, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by SJ69
Cool, good gains, my experience seems similar after 5 days.
What's your daily dose? Are you going to use 6OXO post or something more perscription like in nature?

Daily dose for first 2 weeks is 20 mg. That dose will increase in phase 2 (25 or 30 mg).

No prescription stuff for me. Only VPX Aromadex in week 3, 6, and 9-12.

**jmr1979** · 12-14-2003, 07:35 AM

so you are doing 2 weeks on 1 week off 2 weeks on 1 week off 2 more weeks on then going completely off? where in this cycle do you think your natural test level will be cut off at??

**Mudge** · 12-14-2003, 12:16 PM

It takes alot for complete shutdown, suppression takes nearly nothing at all dose or time wise, as proven by anavar.

5 mg everday is equivalent to 560 mg of testosterone weekly!

Hmm.

**oaktownboy** · 12-14-2003, 12:34 PM

this stuff is expensive are u getting a discount?

**Mudge** · 12-14-2003, 12:43 PM

If you shop around it is not neccessarily that expensive at all compared to other stuff.

Since he works for VPX I'm sure he at least gets a discount if not better.

**oaktownboy** · 12-14-2003, 12:46 PM

i found it at 58 bucks, 1fast vitaglo dpsnutrition and that's only for 2 weeks i believe..dosage taken twice a day

**Rocco32** · 12-14-2003, 01:36 PM

Looking good GoPro! What kind of a w/o schedule are you on right now? P/RR/S?

**Mudge** · 12-14-2003, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by oaktownboy
i found it at 58 bucks, 1fast vitaglo dpsnutrition and that's only for 2 weeks i believe..dosage taken twice a day

I believe the best price is $49.99 for 80 or 90 caps.

**jmr1979** · 12-14-2003, 02:54 PM

kilosports 90 caps for 40 bucks bodybuilding.com legal gears brand 80 count for 44.95

**Dale Mabry** · 12-14-2003, 03:13 PM

Nice to see legalgear coming down to an acceptable price.

**jmr1979** · 12-14-2003, 03:21 PM

yes it is

**gopro** · 12-14-2003, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by jmr1979
so you are doing 2 weeks on 1 week off 2 weeks on 1 week off 2 more weeks on then going completely off? where in this cycle do you think your natural test level will be cut off at??

I believe that M 1-T shuts you down hard. I am hoping that my strategy will prevent this, as well as keep my liver enzymes in check. I believe very highly in short "blitz" cycles, rather than long drawn out ones. I am also hoping that week 2 is even better than week 1.

**gopro** · 12-14-2003, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by rock4832
Looking good GoPro! What kind of a w/o schedule are you on right now? P/RR/S?

Currently I am in a straight power cycle which I often do this time of year. My tentative plan is to compete in April and will therefore kick in P, RR, S right around the 1st of the year.

**jmr1979** · 12-14-2003, 03:26 PM

gp are you taking nac or coq10 or milk thistle and hawthorne berry while on this cycle?

**gopro** · 12-15-2003, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by jmr1979
gp are you taking nac or coq10 or milk thistle and hawthorne berry while on this cycle?

I will use a liver detox formula once the cycle is over.

**Rocco32** · 12-15-2003, 07:17 PM

Any 4-ad JP

**gopro** · 12-16-2003, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by rock4832
Any 4-ad JP

Are you asking me this??

**Rocco32** · 12-16-2003, 08:21 AM

How'd that post get in here? Sorry GoPro, I think I was somewhere else. Or the person I was asking deleted his thread.

**gopro** · 12-16-2003, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by rock4832
How'd that post get in here? Sorry GoPro, I think I was somewhere else. Or the person I was asking deleted his thread.

**Rocco32** · 12-16-2003, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by gopro

Exactly!!

**Twin Peak** · 12-16-2003, 11:49 AM

Eric, how do you know the 3 pounds is not intramuscular water (ala d-bol)?

What sort of strength increases are you seeing? Are you breaking PBs?

**gopro** · 12-16-2003, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Eric, how do you know the 3 pounds is not intramuscular water (ala d-bol)?

What sort of strength increases are you seeing? Are you breaking PBs?

No buddy...these gains are solid muscle...trust me. There is no puffiness and my skin is thinner and veins more pronounced. Looks similar to when I have a client on tren or similar compound.

And yes, breaking PBs at this bodyweight. Dumbell press, leg press, hammer row, hammer incline to name a few.

(note: this will sound nuts, but I witnessed both weigh ins myself done on an industrial scale in our warehouse...one guy here has put on 13 lbs in 10 days on 20 mg per day of M 1-T!!! Trust me...I keep asking him if he is stacking it will Dbol or something and he promises me NO)

**JerseyDevil** · 12-16-2003, 05:48 PM

I was on a 1-test/4-AD transdermal (S1+) for 3 weeks with ok results. I gained a bit under 5 lbs with some strength increase. In contrast, my first cycle with 1-AD I had excellent strength gain even on a cut. I figured that 1) Second cycle is usually not as effective as the first, 2) I've been on a cut and 3) I may have been under dosing the 1-test.

Enter M1-t. I decided to switch to it for two weeks to finish up this cycle. I'm using 20 mg ED in divided doses (Kilo caps). All I can say is M1-t rocks! I'm 7 days in and gaining strength each day. I'm setting one or two PB's every workout. For example 7 days ago on bench I did 225 x 8. Last night I did 225 x 11... easy. Tonight I worked triceps and close gripped 225 x 9.

Didn't mean to hijack your thread Eric, I'm just excited.

**jmr1979** · 12-16-2003, 05:54 PM

hey jersey thats great man i will be starting a log on my bdc 1-t pro here in about 3 weeks i just got my kilo m1t today but won't be doing it for awhile plan to stock up on it though keep me posted on your results on the m1t

**plouffe** · 12-16-2003, 06:04 PM

Damn GoPro, How much is this stuff going for? And what other PH based products are you taking along with the M 1-T

**JerseyDevil** · 12-16-2003, 06:38 PM

Will do jmr.

**Mudge** · 12-16-2003, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by gopro
(note: this will sound nuts, but I witnessed both weigh ins myself done on an industrial scale in our warehouse...one guy here has put on 13 lbs in 10 days on 20 mg per day of M 1-T!!! Trust me...I keep asking him if he is stacking it will Dbol or something and he promises me NO)

I've heard that on other boards too, seriously this sounds like anadrol, not dbol. I think I will pick some up.

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