Why is beta 3 so cheap?

once was fat · 12-16-2003, 10:28 PM

It looks like I will be trying some beta 3 from syntrax. The stuff is really cheap less than 20 bucks for 180 caps. Is this priced this way because you need to stack it with something else to get good results?

once was fat · 12-16-2003, 11:05 PM

Hmmmm dosent seem like to many people have used this supp. If you have let know how it worked for you.

Dante B. · 12-17-2003, 05:48 AM

In my opinion, few people will notice any profound results if this is used as a stand-alone.

However, it is certainly not worthless, alone, by any means; it is also a highly 'stackable" product. Syntrax is generally known for interesting--if not effective products---that are competitively priced.

They've recently increased the per-capsule dose from 100 mgs to 150 mgs; results were generally found when approximately a gram per day was put into use.

So, try to find the new version with 150 mgs of octopamine/ norsynephrine per cap.

once was fat · 12-17-2003, 10:21 AM

Dante what would you stack this with? Would you recommend a diffrent stack alltogether.

BabsieGirl · 12-17-2003, 10:34 AM

Guggulobolic and MM4

**I Are Baboon** · 12-17-2003, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
Guggulobolic and MM4

I went through a bottle before I realized it's more effecive stacking it with one of these products.

As a stand alone, Beta3 did work for me. I would have liked to see how it worked as part of a stack because I've been told it'd be more effective, but I am no longer trying to cut so that experiment will have to wait for another time.

Dante B. · 12-17-2003, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by once was fat
Dante what would you stack this with? Would you recommend a diffrent stack alltogether.

Many stacks come to mind, including those mentioned.

However, Beta 3 along with an E/C stack---perhaps with MM4 as well--- would be splendid.

**dg806** · 12-18-2003, 12:34 PM

Raw material is easily obtainable and cheap.

BabsieGirl · 12-18-2003, 12:40 PM

damn DG.......nice change!

**dg806** · 12-18-2003, 01:52 PM

Thank you~

once was fat · 12-20-2003, 06:41 PM

When stacking do you take the pills at the same time?

prolangtum · 12-20-2003, 07:19 PM

beta 3 shoudl definitely be stacked as stated. Humans dont have a high number of brown fat cells, so thats why it has been somewhat of a disappointment. But it shoudl work as a nutrient partitioner to a degree, and definitely would not hurt adding it to an E/C or Y/C stack

Dante B. · 12-20-2003, 10:54 PM

Beta 3 receptors aren't exclusively found in BAT. It should, however, elicit a humble, but noticeable positive partioning response.

Beta 3 agonists may also increase insulin sensitivity.

prolangtum · 12-20-2003, 11:07 PM

they arent exclusively found in BAT, but, the reason why octopamone has been considered a flop, it because animals have a much higher percentage of beta 3 receptors, and human results havent come close

Dante B. · 12-20-2003, 11:15 PM

Oh, I certainly agree, when it comes to expectations based on animal studies.

It's not, I don't think, the fact that we have less Beta 3 receptors; rather, it's the distribution and the function of those receptors that are unique to us.

prolangtum · 12-21-2003, 12:03 AM

Dante,
Have you used beta 3 before? I used 2 caps before meals a while back, and really didnt notice much, but as with most partitioners, the results probaly are too apparent, plus I am usually on mikes entire stock of supplements, so sometimes it is hard for me to pinpoint what is or isnt working

Dante B. · 12-21-2003, 12:09 AM

No, I have yet to use it, probably for the same reason you couldn't tell if it was working or not: Too many potentially confounding factors operating within me.

Going by studies, observations, and anecdotes, that why I recommend it as part of a stack, not as a stand-alone.

once was fat · 12-21-2003, 12:09 AM

Ok what about this stack

6-oxo
guggulbolic extreme
mm4

How much better would you say this stack is compared to
twinlab ripped fuel extreme ephedra free. Im currently taking the ripped fuel but seems to have stopped working.

Would guggulbolic extreme and mm4 be better than the ripped fuel?

HoldDaMayo · 12-21-2003, 12:45 AM

what about just taking caffeine pills right before you do cardio... combine that with a better diet will get you some good results... 6-oxo won't do much for fat loss... guggulbolic extreme did nothing for me.... MM4 I know nothing about....

BabsieGirl · 12-22-2003, 11:25 AM

use it as a stack!

senimoni · 12-22-2003, 11:38 AM

Kinda funny that people now question things that are reasonable priced!! :-)

HoldDaMayo · 12-22-2003, 11:53 AM

Vasopro Ephedrine and Prolabs Caffeine for teh win!!! cheap ass stack, best results I've ever had...

BabsieGirl · 12-22-2003, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by senimoni
Kinda funny that people now question things that are reasonable priced!! :-)

No kidding

12-16-2003, 10:28 PM	#1
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	Why is beta 3 so cheap? It looks like I will be trying some beta 3 from syntrax. The stuff is really cheap less than 20 bucks for 180 caps. Is this priced this way because you need to stack it with something else to get good results? He who speaks least, think's most.

12-16-2003, 11:05 PM	#2
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	Hmmmm dosent seem like to many people have used this supp. If you have let know how it worked for you. He who speaks least, think's most.

12-17-2003, 05:48 AM	#3
Dante B. Non Compost Mentis Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 598 Photos: 8	In my opinion, few people will notice any profound results if this is used as a stand-alone. However, it is certainly not worthless, alone, by any means; it is also a highly 'stackable" product. Syntrax is generally known for interesting--if not effective products---that are competitively priced. They've recently increased the per-capsule dose from 100 mgs to 150 mgs; results were generally found when approximately a gram per day was put into use. So, try to find the new version with 150 mgs of octopamine/ norsynephrine per cap. Not to see many things, not to hear many things, not to permit many things to come close - first imperative of prudence, first proof that one is no mere accident but a necessity. Friedrich Nietzsche - Ecce Homo

12-17-2003, 10:21 AM	#4
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	Dante what would you stack this with? Would you recommend a diffrent stack alltogether. He who speaks least, think's most.

12-17-2003, 10:34 AM	#5
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Guggulobolic and MM4 Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

12-18-2003, 12:34 PM	#8
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	Raw material is easily obtainable and cheap. 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

12-18-2003, 12:40 PM	#9
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	damn DG.......nice change! Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

12-18-2003, 01:52 PM	#10
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	Thank you~ 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

12-20-2003, 06:41 PM	#11
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	When stacking do you take the pills at the same time? He who speaks least, think's most.

12-20-2003, 07:19 PM	#12
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	beta 3 shoudl definitely be stacked as stated. Humans dont have a high number of brown fat cells, so thats why it has been somewhat of a disappointment. But it shoudl work as a nutrient partitioner to a degree, and definitely would not hurt adding it to an E/C or Y/C stack Mod @ Bulknutrition Forums Mod @ superiormuscle.com Mod @ steroidsupport.com Designersupps.com Bulknutrition.com Blackstarlabs.com

12-20-2003, 10:54 PM	#13
Dante B. Non Compost Mentis Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 598 Photos: 8	Beta 3 receptors aren't exclusively found in BAT. It should, however, elicit a humble, but noticeable positive partioning response. Beta 3 agonists may also increase insulin sensitivity. Not to see many things, not to hear many things, not to permit many things to come close - first imperative of prudence, first proof that one is no mere accident but a necessity. Friedrich Nietzsche - Ecce Homo

12-20-2003, 11:07 PM	#14
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	they arent exclusively found in BAT, but, the reason why octopamone has been considered a flop, it because animals have a much higher percentage of beta 3 receptors, and human results havent come close Mod @ Bulknutrition Forums Mod @ superiormuscle.com Mod @ steroidsupport.com Designersupps.com Bulknutrition.com Blackstarlabs.com

12-20-2003, 11:15 PM	#15
Dante B. Non Compost Mentis Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 598 Photos: 8	Oh, I certainly agree, when it comes to expectations based on animal studies. It's not, I don't think, the fact that we have less Beta 3 receptors; rather, it's the distribution and the function of those receptors that are unique to us. Not to see many things, not to hear many things, not to permit many things to come close - first imperative of prudence, first proof that one is no mere accident but a necessity. Friedrich Nietzsche - Ecce Homo

12-21-2003, 12:03 AM	#16
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	Dante, Have you used beta 3 before? I used 2 caps before meals a while back, and really didnt notice much, but as with most partitioners, the results probaly are too apparent, plus I am usually on mikes entire stock of supplements, so sometimes it is hard for me to pinpoint what is or isnt working Mod @ Bulknutrition Forums Mod @ superiormuscle.com Mod @ steroidsupport.com Designersupps.com Bulknutrition.com Blackstarlabs.com

12-21-2003, 12:09 AM	#17
Dante B. Non Compost Mentis Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 598 Photos: 8	No, I have yet to use it, probably for the same reason you couldn't tell if it was working or not: Too many potentially confounding factors operating within me. Going by studies, observations, and anecdotes, that why I recommend it as part of a stack, not as a stand-alone. Not to see many things, not to hear many things, not to permit many things to come close - first imperative of prudence, first proof that one is no mere accident but a necessity. Friedrich Nietzsche - Ecce Homo

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12-21-2003, 12:45 AM	#19
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	what about just taking caffeine pills right before you do cardio... combine that with a better diet will get you some good results... 6-oxo won't do much for fat loss... guggulbolic extreme did nothing for me.... MM4 I know nothing about.... Are you kidding me????

12-22-2003, 11:25 AM	#20
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	use it as a stack! Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

12-22-2003, 11:38 AM	#21
senimoni Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 161	Kinda funny that people now question things that are reasonable priced!! :-)

12-22-2003, 11:53 AM	#22
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	Vasopro Ephedrine and Prolabs Caffeine for teh win!!! cheap ass stack, best results I've ever had... Are you kidding me????