Cutting Cycle

MTN WARRIOR · 12-26-2003, 08:14 AM

Am halfway thru the On Cycle-Off Cycle "cycle" by Fizogen. Will be looking to do a cutting cycle when I am done. Have heard a few comments about cutting cycles. Plan on doing beacoup cardio, less volume of weights, and an unknown supplement routine. Have heard good things about Redline (BTW thanks Gopro for the sample) and Clen together. Any recommendations? After that I believe I am going to try the M1T/with 4AD followed by 6-oxo. I am not sensitive to ephedra, except maybe the original Twinlabs product (forget the name now) but that made by heart HURT.

gopro · 12-26-2003, 08:59 AM

Some people have had success combining Redline and Clenbutrx in the following ways:

1-using a dose of Redline in the morning and a dose of Clen later in the day (determine which gives you the better pre-workout boost to schedule which goes first)

2-using a 2.5 ml dose of each Redline and Clen at one time once or twice daily

3-using Redline for 2 weeks followed by Clen for 2 weeks

Rocco32 · 12-26-2003, 10:53 AM

What's the most amount of Redline can you take in a day and what's the difference between Redline and Clen Gopro?

gopro · 12-26-2003, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rock4832
What's the most amount of Redline can you take in a day and what's the difference between Redline and Clen Gopro?

15 ml in a day would be the absolute ceiling for most humans. Most people are best off with no more than 7.5-10 ml per day.

Redline and Clenbutrx are two distinct products with distinct effects (although they DO share a few of their ingredients). Clenbutrx contains the infamous E/C stack and works through thermogenesis, while Redline works by something called the "shivering" response through the novel compound Evodiamine.

I am being very simplistic in my response, but if you need more detailed info let me know buddy!

Rocco32 · 12-26-2003, 01:35 PM

That's perfect for now GP! Thanks!

gopro · 12-26-2003, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rock4832
That's perfect for now GP! Thanks!

plouffe · 12-27-2003, 01:52 PM

MTN how do you like there products? I've seen alotta ad's and stuff. Looked promising but I've never giving it a try.

MTN WARRIOR · 12-29-2003, 07:09 AM

I assume you are talking about Fizogens on/off cycle Plouffe. I pretty much got what I expected, maybe a little less. I knew I would get the following sides: fatigue, weight gain (probably due to water), tinier nuts, dry mouth, appetite problem (too much). I gained about 8 pounds in about 3 weeks, maintained that so far. I am sure alot is water gain as I look "wet". Gained some adipose fat I think because a got shit-faced once during that time, think all the beer went to belly and ass. I feel a little stronger on my sets, but hard to say because it causes fatigue. I should have used something to pick me up. Had I done that, workouts could have been a little better. I am in the Off cycle right now. Fatigue has gone a way. A little trouble sleeping at night, have to pee all the time. Workouts are great (probably the Trib), nuts are back to proper size, water weight hasnt gone down yet. Why must we gain water dammit? Ruined a beautiful body.

12-26-2003, 08:14 AM	#1
MTN WARRIOR HOOAH!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOOAHVILLE Posts: 604	Cutting Cycle Am halfway thru the On Cycle-Off Cycle "cycle" by Fizogen. Will be looking to do a cutting cycle when I am done. Have heard a few comments about cutting cycles. Plan on doing beacoup cardio, less volume of weights, and an unknown supplement routine. Have heard good things about Redline (BTW thanks Gopro for the sample) and Clen together. Any recommendations? After that I believe I am going to try the M1T/with 4AD followed by 6-oxo. I am not sensitive to ephedra, except maybe the original Twinlabs product (forget the name now) but that made by heart HURT.

12-26-2003, 08:59 AM	#2
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,894	Some people have had success combining Redline and Clenbutrx in the following ways: 1-using a dose of Redline in the morning and a dose of Clen later in the day (determine which gives you the better pre-workout boost to schedule which goes first) 2-using a 2.5 ml dose of each Redline and Clen at one time once or twice daily 3-using Redline for 2 weeks followed by Clen for 2 weeks All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

12-26-2003, 10:53 AM	#3
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,329 Photos: 18	What's the most amount of Redline can you take in a day and what's the difference between Redline and Clen Gopro? I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

12-26-2003, 01:35 PM	#5
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,329 Photos: 18	That's perfect for now GP! Thanks! I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

12-27-2003, 01:52 PM	#7
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	MTN how do you like there products? I've seen alotta ad's and stuff. Looked promising but I've never giving it a try. These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65

12-29-2003, 07:09 AM	#8
MTN WARRIOR HOOAH!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOOAHVILLE Posts: 604	I assume you are talking about Fizogens on/off cycle Plouffe. I pretty much got what I expected, maybe a little less. I knew I would get the following sides: fatigue, weight gain (probably due to water), tinier nuts, dry mouth, appetite problem (too much). I gained about 8 pounds in about 3 weeks, maintained that so far. I am sure alot is water gain as I look "wet". Gained some adipose fat I think because a got shit-faced once during that time, think all the beer went to belly and ass. I feel a little stronger on my sets, but hard to say because it causes fatigue. I should have used something to pick me up. Had I done that, workouts could have been a little better. I am in the Off cycle right now. Fatigue has gone a way. A little trouble sleeping at night, have to pee all the time. Workouts are great (probably the Trib), nuts are back to proper size, water weight hasnt gone down yet. Why must we gain water dammit? Ruined a beautiful body. THAT WHICH DOES NOT KILL ME, CERTAINLY MUST MAKE ME STRONGER

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