Ph Cycle + Liver Detox

plouffe · 12-26-2003, 05:55 PM

Do you suggest taking a liver detox stack during, or a after a PH cycle? Thanks.

plouffe · 12-26-2003, 06:22 PM

Any Idea's?

jmr1979 · 12-26-2003, 06:33 PM

some nac or milk thistle should do

prolangtum · 12-26-2003, 07:08 PM

Still planning on doing this cycle?

nacnac972 · 12-26-2003, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by prolangtum
Still planning on doing this cycle?

Ofcousre he is would you listen to reason at 16??

plouffe · 12-26-2003, 08:13 PM

I'm just doing a lower dosage. I have the liver support, I'm just wondering if i should take them during the cycle. Or along with my post cycle? or both. Thanks

Var · 12-26-2003, 08:16 PM

How low of a dose are u planning?

plouffe · 12-26-2003, 08:24 PM

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=25446 (M 1-T Tips + Schedule)

For Cycle details.

Var · 12-26-2003, 08:34 PM

I know you've heard this a thousand times, but I gotta say it too. Wait on the heavy stuff until you get a little older. Why fuck yourself up when you already have a lot of potential to grow at your age. If you arent growing, there's probably some issues with your diet that would need to be dealt with before doing a cycle anyway. JMO

plouffe · 12-26-2003, 08:41 PM

I am growing. I'm getting great results with my diet, and workout schedule right now. I just wanna through M1-T into the mix.

Var · 12-26-2003, 08:47 PM

I completely understand being in a rush to put on size. I was a scrawny 125-130lbs in high school. Even now, after putting on a decent amount of weight, I still feel that impatience. I'd just hate to see someone screw themselves up before even starting out in life. The potential damage you could do to your endochrine system is a pretty scary thing, even when you're older...A lot worse at your age. Do what you want. I just had to say my piece. Good luck!

prolangtum · 12-26-2003, 08:55 PM

Var, much like you, I graduated weighing 125 lbs. I was a dumbass, did my 1st cycle at 17. Gained 25 lbs. Between that cycle and the next, I gained 30 lbs naturally.

Var · 12-26-2003, 08:59 PM

I didnt start working out til I was 21, I can only guess what I would have done if I started in high school. Being small definitely motivates you to do whatever you can to look the way you want. It's a good thing and bad depending on how u handle it I think.

Power Rabbit · 12-26-2003, 11:55 PM

nac is ok on the cycle...save the milk thistle for post

KataMaStEr · 12-27-2003, 12:27 AM

I did my first PS cycle at 16; if I remember right I was 6’3 close to 6’4 and 215-225lbs. It was biotest mag10 at, not as powerful as m1t. I’m not going to stand here and tell you not to do it. At the end you’re the one that’s going to make the final decision no matter what other people tell you. Now the way I did it was running very short cycles. I ran mag10 for two weeks at minimum dosage. Right after that I did two weeks of 6oxo. I probably didn’t need to go that long with 6oxo for such a short cycle but hey I did it. From that time I have done two more cycles and ran all of them for just two weeks, not one more day. Now I’m 17, 18 next month, 6’4, 255lbs and about 17+% BF. If I had been in your shoes I would definitely went for something not as powerful as m1t for the 1st cycle but hey that’s up to you.

plouffe · 12-27-2003, 12:26 PM

I've already cycled 1-AD for 3 weeks. Gained 5-6 pounds of LMB.

KataMaStEr · 12-27-2003, 01:09 PM

I still think you are going for something way too powerful man. I know some guys that have done AS at a young age and turned out to be fine but they were also were much more developed than you are from what I can tell from your stats. If you do decide to do it, I would start at even lower dosages than recommended just too see how you react to it. And would just do a 2 week cycle at first. This is serious stuff man, I hope your taking it that way.

plouffe · 12-27-2003, 01:48 PM

I am Kata I'm taking many precautions. I think I'll just go 10mg daily for 2 weeks. And 2 weeks off, then start another cycle if I feel comfortible with it.

plouffe · 12-27-2003, 01:50 PM

And thanks for actually providing information, and for understandable.

12-26-2003, 05:55 PM	#1
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	Ph Cycle + Liver Detox Do you suggest taking a liver detox stack during, or a after a PH cycle? Thanks. These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65

12-26-2003, 06:22 PM	#2
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	Any Idea's? These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65

12-26-2003, 06:33 PM	#3
jmr1979 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 213	some nac or milk thistle should do 5'10 190 bench: 350 squat: 450 x 6 deads: 475 x 6

12-26-2003, 07:08 PM	#4
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	Still planning on doing this cycle? Mod @ Bulknutrition Forums Mod @ superiormuscle.com Mod @ steroidsupport.com Designersupps.com Bulknutrition.com Blackstarlabs.com

12-26-2003, 08:13 PM	#6
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	I'm just doing a lower dosage. I have the liver support, I'm just wondering if i should take them during the cycle. Or along with my post cycle? or both. Thanks These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65

12-26-2003, 08:16 PM	#7
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	How low of a dose are u planning?

12-26-2003, 08:24 PM	#8
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=25446 (M 1-T Tips + Schedule) For Cycle details. These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65

12-26-2003, 08:34 PM	#9
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	I know you've heard this a thousand times, but I gotta say it too. Wait on the heavy stuff until you get a little older. Why fuck yourself up when you already have a lot of potential to grow at your age. If you arent growing, there's probably some issues with your diet that would need to be dealt with before doing a cycle anyway. JMO

12-26-2003, 08:41 PM	#10
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	I am growing. I'm getting great results with my diet, and workout schedule right now. I just wanna through M1-T into the mix. These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65

12-26-2003, 08:47 PM	#11
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	I completely understand being in a rush to put on size. I was a scrawny 125-130lbs in high school. Even now, after putting on a decent amount of weight, I still feel that impatience. I'd just hate to see someone screw themselves up before even starting out in life. The potential damage you could do to your endochrine system is a pretty scary thing, even when you're older...A lot worse at your age. Do what you want. I just had to say my piece. Good luck!

12-26-2003, 08:55 PM	#12
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	Var, much like you, I graduated weighing 125 lbs. I was a dumbass, did my 1st cycle at 17. Gained 25 lbs. Between that cycle and the next, I gained 30 lbs naturally. Mod @ Bulknutrition Forums Mod @ superiormuscle.com Mod @ steroidsupport.com Designersupps.com Bulknutrition.com Blackstarlabs.com

12-26-2003, 08:59 PM	#13
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	I didnt start working out til I was 21, I can only guess what I would have done if I started in high school. Being small definitely motivates you to do whatever you can to look the way you want. It's a good thing and bad depending on how u handle it I think.

12-26-2003, 11:55 PM	#14
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	nac is ok on the cycle...save the milk thistle for post

12-27-2003, 12:27 AM	#15
KataMaStEr -==♠==- Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,960 Photos: 6	I did my first PS cycle at 16; if I remember right I was 6’3 close to 6’4 and 215-225lbs. It was biotest mag10 at, not as powerful as m1t. I’m not going to stand here and tell you not to do it. At the end you’re the one that’s going to make the final decision no matter what other people tell you. Now the way I did it was running very short cycles. I ran mag10 for two weeks at minimum dosage. Right after that I did two weeks of 6oxo. I probably didn’t need to go that long with 6oxo for such a short cycle but hey I did it. From that time I have done two more cycles and ran all of them for just two weeks, not one more day. Now I’m 17, 18 next month, 6’4, 255lbs and about 17+% BF. If I had been in your shoes I would definitely went for something not as powerful as m1t for the 1st cycle but hey that’s up to you.

12-27-2003, 12:26 PM	#16
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	I've already cycled 1-AD for 3 weeks. Gained 5-6 pounds of LMB. These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65

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12-27-2003, 01:09 PM	#17
KataMaStEr -==♠==- Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,960 Photos: 6	I still think you are going for something way too powerful man. I know some guys that have done AS at a young age and turned out to be fine but they were also were much more developed than you are from what I can tell from your stats. If you do decide to do it, I would start at even lower dosages than recommended just too see how you react to it. And would just do a 2 week cycle at first. This is serious stuff man, I hope your taking it that way.

12-27-2003, 01:48 PM	#18
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	I am Kata I'm taking many precautions. I think I'll just go 10mg daily for 2 weeks. And 2 weeks off, then start another cycle if I feel comfortible with it. These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65

12-27-2003, 01:50 PM	#19
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	And thanks for actually providing information, and for understandable. These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65