What Supplements For Bulk And Fitness

rovelive · 12-30-2003, 06:17 AM

Hello hows it going.
My names Tj i am 19 years old from Melbourne Australia.
Now i am looking to get supplements to bulk, strip fat, and make me lift more.

Now the one what is everywhere down here is muscle tech but everyone on this forum says stay away from it what other supplements do you suggest bearing in mind we dont have any anabolic stuff here , just plain old supplements (Australia is always behind in alot of stuff hehe)

What are the best supplements around ?

My main goal at the moment is to put on bulk, about 30 kilograms - i know its alot but thats my long term goal, and then strip the fat off later on, but in the process of bulking up to be really fit so i can run without getting puffed out, to look fit, to be healthy etc.

I will be using this with a routine and eating healthy diet, but unsure what they are at this time i have to work them out.

So what supplements do u think i need to talk in what order also to reach my goal.

PS - When in the process of bulking up i dont wanto look fat if i am putting on bulk i wanto look muscular - would this happen or ?

Please write back thankyou.

ponyboy · 12-30-2003, 06:25 AM

If you're just starting out then don't bother with supplements - it is better to get started with the right habits in place and use supplements only when they are needed, because that is what they are designed for, to be supplemental to your program.

The only thing you might want to consider if you are bulking is a meal replacement or a protein powder to begin with to add to your diet plan.

**P-funk** · 12-30-2003, 06:27 AM

No supplements. Start by learning to eat properly and then use the supplements to SUPPLEMENT your already healthy diet.

**Mudge** · 12-30-2003, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rovelive
Now i am looking to get supplements to bulk, strip fat, and make me lift more.

It would be neat if a single one did all at the same time wouldn't it. Most people here dont know whats legal in Australia and what isn't, so beware of you may get a few bogus replies.

Spend your first 6-12 months without worry for supplements save perhaps a vitamin or something like that. Learn to train and eat first.

Power Rabbit · 12-30-2003, 11:31 AM

yea...bigest gains are gonna come from the dinner table...

Twin Peak · 12-30-2003, 12:21 PM

No supplements? Ya'll are crazy.

Start with learning nutrition and lifting protocol. Part of learning nutrition is what "supplements" are necessary and what are bonus.

For the first six months, use what is necessary, namely:

* Multivitamin
* EFAs (essential fatty acids) and especially fish oil
* Whey protein post workout

You can't get the benefits of those from whole foods.

After six months, you'll want to fine tune your pre, during, and post-workout nutrition. Such fine tuning will depend on your goals, your genetics, and the size of your wallet.

You'll want to include in your pre, during, and post-workout nutrition things like:

- BCAAs
- EAAs
- appropriate carb sources (dextrose and malto dextrine)
- creatine

Read and learn about all of those.

prolangtum · 12-30-2003, 06:32 PM

malto dextrine TP? Thats a new one to me.

**Mudge** · 12-30-2003, 06:38 PM

What about chocolate malted milk balls?

prolangtum · 12-30-2003, 06:53 PM

I just looked it up, Im a friggin tool. Malto dextrine=malodextrin.

Malted Milk Balls are muy bueno. Whoppers and vanilla ice cream is the best.

pood · 01-09-2004, 11:05 AM

I've been off from lifting for a few month. tried going back to lifting, but just wasnt motivated, so i would go one week then not the next or miss a day of workout each week.

last year, i was going on and off

but the year before, in high school, i was lifting heavly for a year

ive been using whey protein on and off, but now i'm taking scoop before and after workouts.

is it too early for me to start using creatine?

i was planning on buying some next week.

and starting in 2 weeks

now, ive got a goal, and im motivated. been eating pretty well, it'll get better once i start cooking all of my own meal

Twin Peak · 01-09-2004, 11:17 AM

Anyone can use creatine, anytime.

Tha Don · 01-09-2004, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ponyboy
If you're just starting out then don't bother with supplements - it is better to get started with the right habits in place and use supplements only when they are needed, because that is what they are designed for, to be supplemental to your program.

The only thing you might want to consider if you are bulking is a meal replacement or a protein powder to begin with to add to your diet plan.

i'd agree with that

BabsieGirl · 01-09-2004, 06:24 PM

I would bulk first...Then worry about cutting later!

Syntrax is having a great deal right now. Creatine and Protein both for $44.95 No Shipping Fee!!!

Isomatrix Chocolate Hurricane Highlights: PROTEIN

- Unparalleled protein formulation for timed released anabolic effects.
- Contains the secret weapon of performance enhancement—a revolutionary, proprietary muscle growth and volumizing system known as GRV™.
- Amazing Chocolate flavor.
- Packed with BCAA’s arginine, glutamine and all the essential amino acids.

Swole V.2 Unflavored Highlights: CREATINE

- Crucial 4 to 1 ratio of betaine to glycocyamine.
- Increases strength.
- Awesome cell volumization producing bigger pumps.
- Increases endurance.
- Works for creatine non-responders.
- Can be added to you favorite beverage or protein shake.

pood · 01-09-2004, 08:37 PM

what website are you guys buying the swole v.2?

I can use the swole v.2 with ym optimum whey 100% right?

Power Rabbit · 01-09-2004, 10:35 PM

www.1fast400.com

12-30-2003, 06:17 AM	#1
rovelive Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 8	What Supplements For Bulk And Fitness Hello hows it going. My names Tj i am 19 years old from Melbourne Australia. Now i am looking to get supplements to bulk, strip fat, and make me lift more. Now the one what is everywhere down here is muscle tech but everyone on this forum says stay away from it what other supplements do you suggest bearing in mind we dont have any anabolic stuff here , just plain old supplements (Australia is always behind in alot of stuff hehe) What are the best supplements around ? My main goal at the moment is to put on bulk, about 30 kilograms - i know its alot but thats my long term goal, and then strip the fat off later on, but in the process of bulking up to be really fit so i can run without getting puffed out, to look fit, to be healthy etc. I will be using this with a routine and eating healthy diet, but unsure what they are at this time i have to work them out. So what supplements do u think i need to talk in what order also to reach my goal. PS - When in the process of bulking up i dont wanto look fat if i am putting on bulk i wanto look muscular - would this happen or ? Please write back thankyou.

12-30-2003, 06:25 AM	#2
ponyboy Training Trainer Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Running around somewhere Posts: 2,608 Photos: 1	If you're just starting out then don't bother with supplements - it is better to get started with the right habits in place and use supplements only when they are needed, because that is what they are designed for, to be supplemental to your program. The only thing you might want to consider if you are bulking is a meal replacement or a protein powder to begin with to add to your diet plan.
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12-30-2003, 06:27 AM	#3
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,374	No supplements. Start by learning to eat properly and then use the supplements to SUPPLEMENT your already healthy diet.
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12-30-2003, 12:21 PM	#6
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,967	No supplements? Ya'll are crazy. Start with learning nutrition and lifting protocol. Part of learning nutrition is what "supplements" are necessary and what are bonus. For the first six months, use what is necessary, namely: * Multivitamin * EFAs (essential fatty acids) and especially fish oil * Whey protein post workout You can't get the benefits of those from whole foods. After six months, you'll want to fine tune your pre, during, and post-workout nutrition. Such fine tuning will depend on your goals, your genetics, and the size of your wallet. You'll want to include in your pre, during, and post-workout nutrition things like: - BCAAs - EAAs - appropriate carb sources (dextrose and malto dextrine) - creatine Read and learn about all of those.
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12-30-2003, 06:32 PM	#7
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	malto dextrine TP? Thats a new one to me.
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12-30-2003, 11:31 AM	#5
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	yea...bigest gains are gonna come from the dinner table...

12-30-2003, 06:38 PM	#8
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	What about chocolate malted milk balls?
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12-30-2003, 06:53 PM	#9
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	I just looked it up, Im a friggin tool. Malto dextrine=malodextrin. Malted Milk Balls are muy bueno. Whoppers and vanilla ice cream is the best.
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01-09-2004, 11:05 AM	#10
pood Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 166	I've been off from lifting for a few month. tried going back to lifting, but just wasnt motivated, so i would go one week then not the next or miss a day of workout each week. last year, i was going on and off but the year before, in high school, i was lifting heavly for a year ive been using whey protein on and off, but now i'm taking scoop before and after workouts. is it too early for me to start using creatine? i was planning on buying some next week. and starting in 2 weeks now, ive got a goal, and im motivated. been eating pretty well, it'll get better once i start cooking all of my own meal
	ASDF!

01-09-2004, 11:17 AM	#11
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,967	Anyone can use creatine, anytime.
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01-09-2004, 06:24 PM	#13
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	I would bulk first...Then worry about cutting later! Syntrax is having a great deal right now. Creatine and Protein both for $44.95 No Shipping Fee!!! Isomatrix Chocolate Hurricane Highlights: PROTEIN - Unparalleled protein formulation for timed released anabolic effects. - Contains the secret weapon of performance enhancement—a revolutionary, proprietary muscle growth and volumizing system known as GRV™. - Amazing Chocolate flavor. - Packed with BCAA’s arginine, glutamine and all the essential amino acids. Swole V.2 Unflavored Highlights: CREATINE - Crucial 4 to 1 ratio of betaine to glycocyamine. - Increases strength. - Awesome cell volumization producing bigger pumps. - Increases endurance. - Works for creatine non-responders. - Can be added to you favorite beverage or protein shake.
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01-09-2004, 08:37 PM	#14
pood Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 166	what website are you guys buying the swole v.2? I can use the swole v.2 with ym optimum whey 100% right?
	ASDF!

01-09-2004, 10:35 PM	#15
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	www.1fast400.com

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