Ephedrine question (planning on stocking up)

badco · 01-02-2004, 05:46 AM

Listen, I know the question has probably already been beaten to death, but I checked on the first couple pages and see no new threads on it.
I plan to buy as much as I can before the deadline, but I'm not sure what the most potent brand is. I've heard great things about liquid clen, but for the price, I cant afford to get as much as I'd like. Someone also told me about some that sounded great called yellowjackets, but I cant find them at the online stores I search. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good, high potency product that would also be cost efficent?
I've gotta buy soon, but not sure who to start with.
One other question, redlione contains no ephedra if I recall, so this product will stay around, right?
You guys have all been great in the past with useful info, just hoping that this one is answered a little more quickly for obvious reasons.

Power Rabbit · 01-02-2004, 11:08 AM

vaspro ephedrine HCL...i like em alot and $7 a bottle!!! you can get em at 1fast400.com

**Prince** · 01-02-2004, 11:43 AM

check these out:
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?cPath=45

badco · 01-02-2004, 12:18 PM

I bought a few bottles of the vaspro. Now can you tell me how you would stack that? I guess a cup of black coffee and a couple asprin with 3 of those?
My norm with hydroxycut (WITH ephedra) was 4 tabs.
I know I just gotta read the bottle and do the math on how to do it, just curious to hear other formulas.

Power Rabbit · 01-02-2004, 01:49 PM

my general stack was 50mg ephed(2 vaspro), and 200mg caffine. I never used the asprin part of the stack. Im not particulary sensitive to ephedra so the 50mg may be alil much for you...

a good set of numbers i found was 40 E / 200 C / 300 A

Rob028 · 01-03-2004, 07:19 PM

As far as ephedra products go, I like the dyna-burn @ $16.99 (100 caps). It has 350mg of ephedra & at that price point IMO it is hard to beat. Great energy boost. I just bought 6 bottles of it.

badco · 01-08-2004, 09:09 AM

I bought the vaspro, took two tabs at 50mg with a cup of coffee.
nice boost. I'm glad I got it.
Thanks for the advice everyone!

burstofspeed · 01-08-2004, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rob028
As far as ephedra products go, I like the dyna-burn @ $16.99 (100 caps). It has 350mg of ephedra & at that price point IMO it is hard to beat. Great energy boost. I just bought 6 bottles of it.

Thats ephedra, so the actual content of ephedrine (the stuff your looking for) is alot less, most likely you got either a 4% or a 8% concentration which leaves you with either 14mg, or 28mg of ephedrine per tablet depending on the concentration. So you are getting either 1400mg or 2800mg of ephedrine for $17. If you go to 1fast400
http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id...79b29391ebdae0 you can get 2500mg of ephedrine for $7

Rob028 · 01-09-2004, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by burstofspeed
Thats ephedra, so the actual content of ephedrine (the stuff your looking for) is alot less, most likely you got either a 4% or a 8% concentration which leaves you with either 14mg, or 28mg of ephedrine per tablet depending on the concentration. So you are getting either 1400mg or 2800mg of ephedrine for $17. If you go to 1fast400
http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id...79b29391ebdae0 you can get 2500mg of ephedrine for $7

Actually Dymaburn has 350mg of MaHuang & 21mg of ephedrine alkaloids per serving. I assume you are referring to the Vasopro HCL. This product does give you 25mg ephedrine per serving but the HCL stuff is not going to be banned. So there is no need to buy a ton. If you want the best deal on EPHEDRINE, Millenium fitness sells Kaizen Ephedrine at 60mg (100 caps) for 9 dollars.

Monolith · 01-09-2004, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Rob028
Actually Dymaburn has 350mg of MaHuang & 21mg of ephedrine alkaloids per serving. I assume you are referring to the Vasopro HCL. This product does give you 25mg ephedrine per serving but the HCL stuff is not going to be banned. So there is no need to buy a ton. If you want the best deal on EPHEDRINE, Millenium fitness sells Kaizen Ephedrine at 60mg (100 caps) for 9 dollars.

Uhhh... what makes you think the "HCL stuff" won't be banned?

Power Rabbit · 01-09-2004, 11:34 PM

I hear this on alot of boards...im not sure why...think cause its used as ashema medicine..

Rob028 · 01-10-2004, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by Monolith
Uhhh... what makes you think the "HCL stuff" won't be banned?

Ephedrine, although popularly marketed as a weightloss supplemet, it is used in many OTC products because it has bronchial benefits. It is used in a ton of over the counter products. The HCL product is used in these OTC items & will not be touched. It is the high mg guarana & alkaloid supplemts that will be banned. Supplement sellers are not making a stink so they can watch their products fly off the shelves as people stock up.

Rob028 · 01-10-2004, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Power Rabbit
I hear this on alot of boards...im not sure why...think cause its used as ashema medicine..

You are exactly right rabbit.

Monolith · 01-10-2004, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rob028
Ephedrine, although popularly marketed as a weightloss supplemet, it is used in many OTC products because it has bronchial benefits. It is used in a ton of over the counter products. The HCL product is used in these OTC items & will not be touched. It is the high mg guarana & alkaloid supplemts that will be banned. Supplement sellers are not making a stink so they can watch their products fly off the shelves as people stock up.

Can you confirm this with a link?

I know the ephedrine HCL was used as an asthma medication, but i assumed the new ban would just make a prescription necessary.

What youre saying is that the government could pass a law saying marijuana is illegal, but if you say you have a medical condition that requires it, is ok to buy it.

Rob028 · 01-11-2004, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
Can you confirm this with a link?

I know the ephedrine HCL was used as an asthma medication, but i assumed the new ban would just make a prescription necessary.

What youre saying is that the government could pass a law saying marijuana is illegal, but if you say you have a medical condition that requires it, is ok to buy it.

Here is a link....http://www.foodinstitute.com/ephedra.pdf. It is a document that opens through adobe. Go to the second page under the header "What does the ban cover" & it reads plainly that the ban only applies to Ephedra Alkaloids as they relate to weightloss supplements but does not apply to Ephedrine Hydrochloride. Which is in bronchodilators.

You really cannot compare marijuana to ephedrine & before you make a claim like that you should do your homework. The ephedrine legislation is very clear & with 5 minutes worth of research you could find it.

Monolith · 01-11-2004, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rob028
Here is a link....http://www.foodinstitute.com/ephedra.pdf. It is a document that opens through adobe. Go to the second page under the header "What does the ban cover" & it reads plainly that the ban only applies to Ephedra Alkaloids as they relate to weightloss supplements but does not apply to Ephedrine Hydrochloride. Which is in bronchodilators.

You really cannot compare marijuana to ephedrine & before you make a claim like that you should do your homework. The ephedrine legislation is very clear & with 5 minutes worth of research you could find it.

Wow... bizarre. It says ephedrine sulfate wont be touched either.

What the hell is the point of this ban then? It's not actually banning ephedra, it's just banning the marketing of ephedra as a dietery supplement.

What a worthless, time wasting piece of legislation.

Rob028 · 01-11-2004, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
Wow... bizarre. It says ephedrine sulfate wont be touched either.

What the hell is the point of this ban then? It's not actually banning ephedra, it's just banning the marketing of ephedra as a dietery supplement.

What a worthless, time wasting piece of legislation.

I totally agree. The reason for the ban is the same reason we will loose PH's....in order to get re-elected lawmakers need to show there voting public that they are on a crusade to make their kids & neighborhoods safer. They cannot ban cigaretts b/c lobbiest are stuffing their pockets. Can't ban alcohol. So ban whatever is popular & in the news. Ehpedrine killed 150 people last year. More people die of severe jellyfish stings. No bullshit.

But legislators can really look good when they tell there voting public that they are protecting things like HS athletics & mom/dad/applepie. I use PH'...responsibly & get a great benefit from them. But I will loose them, just like I am going to loose my favorite energy booster (mauHaung).

I hope I didn't offend...the whole ephedrine thing just pisses me off.

Power Rabbit · 01-11-2004, 09:41 PM

I wouldnt be so mad about it...they appeased the crazy media and swept the situation under the carpet....end result: we still have our E/C stacks and no one will bitch about ephedra anymore

Monolith · 01-14-2004, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rob028
I totally agree. The reason for the ban is the same reason we will loose PH's....in order to get re-elected lawmakers need to show there voting public that they are on a crusade to make their kids & neighborhoods safer. They cannot ban cigaretts b/c lobbiest are stuffing their pockets. Can't ban alcohol. So ban whatever is popular & in the news. Ehpedrine killed 150 people last year. More people die of severe jellyfish stings. No bullshit.

But legislators can really look good when they tell there voting public that they are protecting things like HS athletics & mom/dad/applepie. I use PH'...responsibly & get a great benefit from them. But I will loose them, just like I am going to loose my favorite energy booster (mauHaung).

I hope I didn't offend...the whole ephedrine thing just pisses me off.

Yeah, i agree. It's unbelievably hypocritical for them to ban ephedrine but not tobacco or alcohol (or jellyfish

).

Will this law even affect the production of ephedra/ine supplements, though? Can't they just continue to be produced, but marketed as a 'food' instead?

Twin Peak · 01-14-2004, 02:58 PM

No, its not a food (as per the statutory definition of "food" and "dietary supplement."

**dg806** · 01-14-2004, 04:01 PM

Look at how everyone is bashing M 4/ad. But GP got good results. Everyone is different and will react to a supp different. So just to say that it does this or that, you can only generalize it. 90% of people may act one way and the other 10% may react to the substance in a negative way.

Monolith · 01-14-2004, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by Twin Peak
No, its not a food (as per the statutory definition of "food" and "dietary supplement."

What if someone starts selling "ephedrine muffins"? Still illegal?

01-02-2004, 05:46 AM	#1
badco Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 65 Photos: 2	Ephedrine question (planning on stocking up) Listen, I know the question has probably already been beaten to death, but I checked on the first couple pages and see no new threads on it. I plan to buy as much as I can before the deadline, but I'm not sure what the most potent brand is. I've heard great things about liquid clen, but for the price, I cant afford to get as much as I'd like. Someone also told me about some that sounded great called yellowjackets, but I cant find them at the online stores I search. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good, high potency product that would also be cost efficent? I've gotta buy soon, but not sure who to start with. One other question, redlione contains no ephedra if I recall, so this product will stay around, right? You guys have all been great in the past with useful info, just hoping that this one is answered a little more quickly for obvious reasons.

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01-03-2004, 07:19 PM	#6
Rob028 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 17	As far as ephedra products go, I like the dyna-burn @ $16.99 (100 caps). It has 350mg of ephedra & at that price point IMO it is hard to beat. Great energy boost. I just bought 6 bottles of it. something wicked this way comes.

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01-14-2004, 04:01 PM	#21
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	Look at how everyone is bashing M 4/ad. But GP got good results. Everyone is different and will react to a supp different. So just to say that it does this or that, you can only generalize it. 90% of people may act one way and the other 10% may react to the substance in a negative way. 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

01-02-2004, 11:08 AM	#2
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	vaspro ephedrine HCL...i like em alot and $7 a bottle!!! you can get em at 1fast400.com

01-02-2004, 12:18 PM	#4
badco Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 65 Photos: 2	I bought a few bottles of the vaspro. Now can you tell me how you would stack that? I guess a cup of black coffee and a couple asprin with 3 of those? My norm with hydroxycut (WITH ephedra) was 4 tabs. I know I just gotta read the bottle and do the math on how to do it, just curious to hear other formulas.

01-02-2004, 01:49 PM	#5
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	my general stack was 50mg ephed(2 vaspro), and 200mg caffine. I never used the asprin part of the stack. Im not particulary sensitive to ephedra so the 50mg may be alil much for you... a good set of numbers i found was 40 E / 200 C / 300 A

01-08-2004, 09:09 AM	#7
badco Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 65 Photos: 2	I bought the vaspro, took two tabs at 50mg with a cup of coffee. nice boost. I'm glad I got it. Thanks for the advice everyone!

01-09-2004, 11:34 PM	#11
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	I hear this on alot of boards...im not sure why...think cause its used as ashema medicine..

01-11-2004, 09:41 PM	#18
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	I wouldnt be so mad about it...they appeased the crazy media and swept the situation under the carpet....end result: we still have our E/C stacks and no one will bitch about ephedra anymore

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