Post cycle M1T notes...

**Dale Mabry** · 01-02-2004, 06:25 PM

Well, I finished M1t 17 days ago and began 6 oxo postcycle. I have missed about 3 days of the 6 oxo for various reasons, one of which is I forgot on 1 day. I worked out a total of 3 times since my last day on M1T and played tennis 3 times. I also have stopped creatine for a bit and started phosphatidylserine today since I am starting cardio. Well, today being my 3rd workout and first one since I got back from vacation, I figured I would give her hell and do more or less an enitre upper body workout. I am happy to note that I actually added a rep at 275 on bench today and added 5lbs a side for my DB row 8 rep max. Not too super, but I figured to see a decline in both. I am thinking one of two things is happening. Either I am getting a substantial increase in free test since I am inhibiting both Estrogen (6 oxo) and DHT (finasteride) or the the rest period was very beneficial to my CNS. Either way I increased my PBs again. On a side note, I think my hair is shedding a bit. I noticed an increase in hairs found in the shower which sucks, but still does not show up in the mirror so I won't worry til it does. My scalp was actually quite irritated up until about 2 days ago.

topolo · 01-02-2004, 06:30 PM

so all in all things went quite well huh?

**Mudge** · 01-02-2004, 07:15 PM

If you dont lose post cycle you can't ask for much more!

Var · 01-02-2004, 07:18 PM

How do you feel about the cycle overall, Dale? May be a strange question, but I've gotten the feeling from some of your posts that you lost the excitement about this you started with. Did the sides get you down really bad? Did collapsing after that workout freak you out? I may be totally misreading your posts...just curious.

PreMier · 01-02-2004, 07:26 PM

Also Dale, how did you run your cycle...(ie: length, mg ED) I forgot

**Dale Mabry** · 01-02-2004, 07:33 PM

Overall, I think the cycle was great. I wasn't freaked out about collapsing since I used to do that all the time after wrestling practice in high school. Sides weren't too bad, but on occasion, my muscles would just lock up for no reason. It never happened during a set, but usually afer I worked out and got home I would reach for something and it would happen, could have been electrolyte depletion. Lethargy only occured the last few days so I had no probs with that. Prior to this little cycle, I would have put creatine as the standard for strength gains when it comes to supplements, even higher than the transdermal PHs and such. I would have to say that m1t blew it out of the water. I must concur with the others on the board that it lends itself better to cutting since the appetite suppression is very substantial. I have come a long way in a month in terms of strength and size. Of the sides associated with it, the most noticeable one was the elevated BP. I never measured BP, but I could tell it was up there, especially right before bed.

In regard to your statment Var, I would not say that I lost the excitement that I started with, it's just now that I am more focused on keeping my gains since the cycle is over. I will be using 6 oxo immediately postcycle, as well as Micellean MRP, Phosphatidylserine, Flaxseed oil, and some other yet to be deterimned supps during cutting.

The greatest effect I got from the m1t was that I realized I never want to go 2 years without lifting again. The sense of accomplishment I got when I smashed my PRs every week was such a mental rush. Also knowing that I will be about 210 when I am cut is a great feeling too.

Oh yeah, I weighed in at 233 today and I would imagine the water retention from creatine has left since it has been nearly 3 weeks since I have taken it.

Edit: Premier, I went 20 mg ED for 3 weeks.

Var · 01-02-2004, 07:37 PM

Great post! Appreciate the updates!

**Mudge** · 01-02-2004, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
The sense of accomplishment I got when I smashed my PRs every week was such a mental rush

Thats where the mental addiction sets in! How tall are you again?

**Dale Mabry** · 01-02-2004, 08:46 PM

I'm 5'11".

I can see how someone could get hooked on such things VERY easily.

**Mudge** · 01-02-2004, 09:02 PM

You know it, its not physical addiction but the mental is always possible.

PreMier · 01-02-2004, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
its not physical addiction but the mental is always possible.

If your weak...

Power Rabbit · 01-02-2004, 09:08 PM

Heh I could see myself getting mentally addicted to gear...if it werent for the money issue..... my cheapness will allways win the day

**Dale Mabry** · 01-02-2004, 09:17 PM

Amen rabbit, amen.

01-02-2004, 06:25 PM	#1
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 14,335 Photos: 10	Post cycle M1T notes... Well, I finished M1t 17 days ago and began 6 oxo postcycle. I have missed about 3 days of the 6 oxo for various reasons, one of which is I forgot on 1 day. I worked out a total of 3 times since my last day on M1T and played tennis 3 times. I also have stopped creatine for a bit and started phosphatidylserine today since I am starting cardio. Well, today being my 3rd workout and first one since I got back from vacation, I figured I would give her hell and do more or less an enitre upper body workout. I am happy to note that I actually added a rep at 275 on bench today and added 5lbs a side for my DB row 8 rep max. Not too super, but I figured to see a decline in both. I am thinking one of two things is happening. Either I am getting a substantial increase in free test since I am inhibiting both Estrogen (6 oxo) and DHT (finasteride) or the the rest period was very beneficial to my CNS. Either way I increased my PBs again. On a side note, I think my hair is shedding a bit. I noticed an increase in hairs found in the shower which sucks, but still does not show up in the mirror so I won't worry til it does. My scalp was actually quite irritated up until about 2 days ago. If sense were common, everyone would have it. 4/2007-Current 75th Ranked most popular image 1 spot behind Prince's bulge...

01-02-2004, 07:15 PM	#3
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	If you dont lose post cycle you can't ask for much more! Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

01-02-2004, 07:26 PM	#5
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,962 Photos: 2	Also Dale, how did you run your cycle...(ie: length, mg ED) I forgot P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

01-02-2004, 07:33 PM	#6
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 14,335 Photos: 10	Overall, I think the cycle was great. I wasn't freaked out about collapsing since I used to do that all the time after wrestling practice in high school. Sides weren't too bad, but on occasion, my muscles would just lock up for no reason. It never happened during a set, but usually afer I worked out and got home I would reach for something and it would happen, could have been electrolyte depletion. Lethargy only occured the last few days so I had no probs with that. Prior to this little cycle, I would have put creatine as the standard for strength gains when it comes to supplements, even higher than the transdermal PHs and such. I would have to say that m1t blew it out of the water. I must concur with the others on the board that it lends itself better to cutting since the appetite suppression is very substantial. I have come a long way in a month in terms of strength and size. Of the sides associated with it, the most noticeable one was the elevated BP. I never measured BP, but I could tell it was up there, especially right before bed. In regard to your statment Var, I would not say that I lost the excitement that I started with, it's just now that I am more focused on keeping my gains since the cycle is over. I will be using 6 oxo immediately postcycle, as well as Micellean MRP, Phosphatidylserine, Flaxseed oil, and some other yet to be deterimned supps during cutting. The greatest effect I got from the m1t was that I realized I never want to go 2 years without lifting again. The sense of accomplishment I got when I smashed my PRs every week was such a mental rush. Also knowing that I will be about 210 when I am cut is a great feeling too. Oh yeah, I weighed in at 233 today and I would imagine the water retention from creatine has left since it has been nearly 3 weeks since I have taken it. Edit: Premier, I went 20 mg ED for 3 weeks. If sense were common, everyone would have it. 4/2007-Current 75th Ranked most popular image 1 spot behind Prince's bulge...

01-02-2004, 08:46 PM	#9
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 14,335 Photos: 10	I'm 5'11". I can see how someone could get hooked on such things VERY easily. If sense were common, everyone would have it. 4/2007-Current 75th Ranked most popular image 1 spot behind Prince's bulge...

01-02-2004, 07:18 PM	#4
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	How do you feel about the cycle overall, Dale? May be a strange question, but I've gotten the feeling from some of your posts that you lost the excitement about this you started with. Did the sides get you down really bad? Did collapsing after that workout freak you out? I may be totally misreading your posts...just curious.

01-02-2004, 07:37 PM	#7
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	Great post! Appreciate the updates!

01-02-2004, 09:02 PM	#10
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	You know it, its not physical addiction but the mental is always possible. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

01-02-2004, 09:08 PM	#12
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	Heh I could see myself getting mentally addicted to gear...if it werent for the money issue..... my cheapness will allways win the day

01-02-2004, 09:17 PM	#13
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 14,335 Photos: 10	Amen rabbit, amen. If sense were common, everyone would have it. 4/2007-Current 75th Ranked most popular image 1 spot behind Prince's bulge...

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