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  1. 01-06-2004, 06:15 AM #1
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    about vpx fat burners

    I thought vpx only had one kind of fat burning product

    i had my eyes set for redline already but then i saw melt down, liquid clen etc...

    and well i thought which of the fat bruners from vpx would be the best to use. as much as possible ephedra free.
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  3. 01-06-2004, 07:23 AM #2
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    Meltdown z-14 and Redline are both e-free. You could also supplement w/ ThinFat.
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  4. 01-06-2004, 03:43 PM #3
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    I'm very interested in knowing about redlines potency as a fat burner, but I have pretty good experience with Thermorexin from AF store
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  5. 01-06-2004, 03:48 PM #4
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    I tried Redline last night for the first time for energy.It definitly gets you amped
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  6. 01-07-2004, 07:51 AM #5
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    Originally posted by nacnac972
    I tried Redline last night for the first time for energy.It definitly gets you amped
    True dat...Redline makes me want to do one of two things:

    1-go to bed b/c I feel like I have the flu
    2-tear into the weights like a freaking madman


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  7. 01-07-2004, 08:34 AM #6
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    Originally posted by gopro
    True dat...Redline makes me want to do one of two things:

    1-go to bed b/c I feel like I have the flu
    2-tear into the weights like a freaking madman
    Ok it's established that it's a potent energizer, so...how well does it take care of being a fat burner?
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  8. 01-07-2004, 04:46 PM #7
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    it really doesnt do anything for fat
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  9. 01-07-2004, 05:48 PM #8
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    As far as fat-burning, Liquid Clen is by far their
    To achieve Success is certaily tough..but keeping it, much tougher!
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  10. 01-07-2004, 05:49 PM #9
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    Sorry, by far their best product,

    But redline is good too,
    To achieve Success is certaily tough..but keeping it, much tougher!
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  11. 01-07-2004, 06:14 PM #10
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    Originally posted by gopro
    True dat...Redline makes me want to do one of two things:

    1-go to bed b/c I feel like I have the flu
    2-tear into the weights like a freaking madman
    Yeah it sure does.Oh and thanks GP it was the sample you sent me.Check out this guy http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=19262 Looks very very similar to free samples.
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  12. 01-07-2004, 06:25 PM #11
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    Originally posted by andyo
    As far as fat-burning, Liquid Clen is by far their
    Do you find that ephedra effects your prostate? I'm interested in liquid clen, right now i'm using thermorexin.
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  13. 01-08-2004, 07:05 AM #12
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    Well, both caffiene and Epedra have diuretic effects and increase my urination like crazy. And in some small way, it seems like it may have but when I am not drinking water, like on my rest day, I don't have to go, so my bladder does'nt see to be now.

    Liquid Clen only gives me an upset stomach due to the shit-like taste, but is a great product
    To achieve Success is certaily tough..but keeping it, much tougher!
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  14. 01-08-2004, 08:32 AM #13
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    I think ephedra/ephdrine has an effect on prostate htrophy (enlargment), not as a diuretic, if you get a feeling you got an acorn in your ass then you know you got a problem.
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  15. 01-08-2004, 09:49 AM #14
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    ephedrine does definitely effect my prostate... It's an unfortunate side effect I've just learned to deal with...
    Are you kidding me????
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  16. 01-08-2004, 10:29 AM #15
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    Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
    ephedrine does definitely effect my prostate... It's an unfortunate side effect I've just learned to deal with...
    it's semi permanent, how effective is a fat burner at fat loss when it has ephedrine in it compared to like lets say redline?
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  17. 01-09-2004, 07:46 AM #16
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    Redline just now began to work for me energy-wise after almost an entire bottle and 10cc at a time. Maybe it's just me.
    To achieve Success is certaily tough..but keeping it, much tougher!
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  18. 01-09-2004, 09:06 AM #17
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    K from what everyone says about Redline, if you want energy then it's the way to go, but as far as fat burning goes it hasn't been established yet, thus making it not worth to buy or try for now.
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  19. 01-09-2004, 10:57 AM #18
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    Originally posted by andyo
    Redline just now began to work for me energy-wise after almost an entire bottle and 10cc at a time. Maybe it's just me.
    It didn't do anything for me either; I assume that there are a few of us who are simply non-responders (I am a non-responder to just about everything).
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  20. 01-09-2004, 08:46 PM #19
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    Originally posted by andyo
    Redline just now began to work for me energy-wise after almost an entire bottle and 10cc at a time. Maybe it's just me.
    I would have a heart attack if i took 10cc at one time LOL.Me and my workout partner did a half seving each and were amped.I guess everybody is different
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  21. 01-10-2004, 02:09 PM #20
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    I have access to Clenbuterol (spiropent)...is Liquid Clen better because im going to start to diet and ripping out
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  22. 01-10-2004, 02:20 PM #21
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    In the long run liquid clenbutrx is better because your body can tolerate it for longer periods of time.
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    ...grr...my biggest gripe about vpx products...dont get me wrong....i like vpx, and I like all the vpx reps on this board......but why oh why use gear names...it confuses everyone...and IMO brings unwanted attension to PH's....i like liquid clen..solid product, and i would reccomend it to others....but out of princepal i wish I didnt like it cause of the name....Clenbuterol is a great illeagel way to lose fat...bit more dangerous though...i guess its moot point cause liquid clen is about to become as illeagel as clen
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  24. 01-11-2004, 03:23 PM #23
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    ok cool, i will stick with clenbuterol and cynomel
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