Does 19-nor-4-ad keep libido up like regular 4-ad?

camarosuper6 · 01-14-2004, 08:57 PM

I ordered the wrong stuff from mass nutrition. My stupid ass wasnt paying close attention and instead of getting ergopharms 4-ad, i got the nor-19 4-ad.

I wanted the 4-ad to keep my libido up and lethargy down for my frist m1-t cycle, but i got the nor instead. Would anyone recommend me still using it with my stack, or would it just be better to use it another time?

Thanks
Dave

**dg806** · 01-15-2004, 10:52 AM

It is not 19 nor 4/ad......................just 19 nor.
4/ad IMO would be better.

ice · 01-15-2004, 11:24 AM

I took 19nor and it didnt do anything to my sex drive either way.

HoldDaMayo · 01-15-2004, 11:47 AM

are you sure that you ordered the wrong thing or they just sent you that instead... because I ordered 4-AD a few months back and they couldn't ship it to california so they just sent me 6-oxo instead... didn't even tell me or ask me what I'd like to do...

camarosuper6 · 01-15-2004, 01:30 PM

Well, the stuff is called 19-Nor-4-androstendiol. Is this a derrivitive of 4-ad?

I dunno.. its by ergopharm, and maybe that is why they sent me this instead of 4-ad because I am in california.

I dont know, I just dont know much of anything about this product.

fagnacock · 01-15-2004, 09:27 PM

Straight from Ergopharm:

"Who takes Norandrodiol® Select300?
Men and women looking for increased lean muscle growth, fat loss, strength increases and other anabolic benefits, with minimal androgenic characteristics (aggressiveness, mood, libido, etc.)."

Since (as I'm aware) the reason for lethargy while on M1T is libido related, the 19-nor-4-ad will not have the desirable effects if used in a stack.

plouffe · 01-16-2004, 08:32 AM

What else could you use to prevent lethargy? ( Non-hormonal / Non-Stimulant ) Thanks.

**dg806** · 01-16-2004, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by camarosuper6
Well, the stuff is called 19-Nor-4-androstendiol. Is this a derrivitive of 4-ad?

This is the chemicle structure...........(Norandrodiol)
4/ad is a different compound(Androstenediol).
Both compete for the same conversion enzyme though(3HSD).
Both have an approximate conversion rate of 15%.

ice · 01-19-2004, 02:47 PM

I would right back and complain. 19nor IMO is a *very* shitty product and something i wish i had never taken. Reason being it gave me ichy nipples and just small but significant amount of gyno under my left nipple. I dont have tits or any shit like that but I went from having a tight chest to a saggy one cause of that product.

01-14-2004, 08:57 PM	#1
camarosuper6 Unstoppable Force Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,415	Does 19-nor-4-ad keep libido up like regular 4-ad? I ordered the wrong stuff from mass nutrition. My stupid ass wasnt paying close attention and instead of getting ergopharms 4-ad, i got the nor-19 4-ad. I wanted the 4-ad to keep my libido up and lethargy down for my frist m1-t cycle, but i got the nor instead. Would anyone recommend me still using it with my stack, or would it just be better to use it another time? Thanks Dave "Show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you a guy tired of screwing her"

01-15-2004, 10:52 AM	#2
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	It is not 19 nor 4/ad......................just 19 nor. 4/ad IMO would be better. 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

01-15-2004, 11:24 AM	#3
ice Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: canada Posts: 67	I took 19nor and it didnt do anything to my sex drive either way. go hard or $%^& off

01-15-2004, 11:47 AM	#4
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	are you sure that you ordered the wrong thing or they just sent you that instead... because I ordered 4-AD a few months back and they couldn't ship it to california so they just sent me 6-oxo instead... didn't even tell me or ask me what I'd like to do... Are you kidding me????

01-15-2004, 01:30 PM	#5
camarosuper6 Unstoppable Force Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,415	Well, the stuff is called 19-Nor-4-androstendiol. Is this a derrivitive of 4-ad? I dunno.. its by ergopharm, and maybe that is why they sent me this instead of 4-ad because I am in california. I dont know, I just dont know much of anything about this product. "Show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you a guy tired of screwing her"

01-15-2004, 09:27 PM	#6
fagnacock Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2	Straight from Ergopharm: "Who takes Norandrodiol® Select300? Men and women looking for increased lean muscle growth, fat loss, strength increases and other anabolic benefits, with minimal androgenic characteristics (aggressiveness, mood, libido, etc.)." Since (as I'm aware) the reason for lethargy while on M1T is libido related, the 19-nor-4-ad will not have the desirable effects if used in a stack.

01-16-2004, 08:32 AM	#7
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	What else could you use to prevent lethargy? ( Non-hormonal / Non-Stimulant ) Thanks. These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65

01-19-2004, 02:47 PM	#9
ice Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: canada Posts: 67	I would right back and complain. 19nor IMO is a very shitty product and something i wish i had never taken. Reason being it gave me ichy nipples and just small but significant amount of gyno under my left nipple. I dont have tits or any shit like that but I went from having a tight chest to a saggy one cause of that product. go hard or $%^& off

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