NorDerm questions

**nikegurl** · 01-28-2004, 06:36 PM

i've heard of women (including our own Leslie) using low dose Nor products without side effects.

i've considered it in the past and lately i feel like i should get some now and hang onto it for when i'm ready (in a few months) since i bet before long you won't be able to purchase phs anymore.

i know avant stopped making Noraderm and that 1fast bought the formula.

it looks like NorDerm is their version. (sold in 4 oz size instead of 8 oz)

at the bottom of the info it says very clearly that it is not for use by women. is it the right stuff? also would it be reasonable not to use for 6 months after purchasing or would it be less effective?

thanks!

also, in terms of doseage and length of use...

i believe Leslie used it for 8 weeks. i read in the FAQ for women not to go over 4 weeks. she did well with it - is 8 wks reasonable?

what about doseage? my weight will be 135-140 when i use it.

thanks for the help. i'm gonna keep reading and learning before i do a thing.

**nikegurl** · 01-28-2004, 06:38 PM

...or better to look at the powder, buy the gel & make it. (that sounds complicated....)

**plouffe** · 01-28-2004, 07:27 PM

I was really aware of women + Ph's. I know very little about the female body ( bodybuilding wise ).

**nikegurl** · 01-28-2004, 07:30 PM

dg will help me out. and maybe mudge and/or tp

thanks though!

**ZECH** · 01-29-2004, 06:32 AM

Same stuff....................it is a mild androgen and women can use it. You may want to try a four week cycle first to see how your body reacts to it.

**JerseyDevil** · 01-29-2004, 07:04 AM

Maybe you should PM Leslie. I'm sure she will give you her input, and whether there is something she would have done differently. Just a thought.

**Power Rabbit** · 01-29-2004, 12:20 PM

i wouldnt think youd have to worry too much aboout virulization with 19-nor...

**nikegurl** · 01-30-2004, 09:49 AM

thanks all. couple more questiona - am i right to expect this may not be available in a few months time? if i get it now could i hang on to it for 4-5 months without it "expiring"?

if i go w/a 4 week use the first time how long would i want to wait before using again or would i use for 4 weeks and then extend for another 2 if all is well?

finally - would the after use protocal for ph use apply with a product this "mild"?

thank you so much everyone.

**19-chief** · 11-04-2004, 03:26 PM

if i go w/a 4 week use the first time how long would i want to wait before using again or would i use for 4 weeks and then extend for another 2 if all is well?

nike- did you ever get an answer to this question??? i've got my fiance on a 4 wk cycle of norderm @ 100mg am and 100mg pm... she's only 1.5 wks into it... is it safe to go further out than 4 wks???

**nikegurl** · 11-04-2004, 06:01 PM

hi there - i have the transdermal 19nor but haven't used it yet. i've used m4ohn with nice results but can't tell you anything on the 19nor from first hand experience.

i think you'll both be better able to judge how she is tolerating it after 3-4 weeks. may i ask how long she's been training? good luck to her and keep us posted.

**19-chief** · 11-04-2004, 06:22 PM

she's been training on and off for a little over 4 years... the off time was about 1-1.5 years total... we eat pretty well and train pretty hard... i just didn't know how long it would take to see some gains and at what point there were deminising returns...

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