what kind of 1-test?

IronSlingah · 01-30-2004, 04:49 PM

Ok im going to start doing 1-test in a month after i do some research. My question is what kind should i buy? and how should i take it i see some threads talking about 300mg -900mg a day so which is best for someone around 200lbs with 15% bodyfat on his first cycle? Also i would like to know if this will help me lean down to 8% bodyfat or just give me mass with no real fatloss.

**Prince** · 01-30-2004, 11:29 PM

are you looking for oral or transdermal?

165r · 01-31-2004, 05:32 PM

I used 1 test from vpx. thought it was great, had impressive gains. gonna use it again.

IronSlingah · 01-31-2004, 09:08 PM

Im leaning towards VPX’s Methyl 1-Test (liquid?) for 14 days at 20g a day and then 14 days of aromadex. Can you use that transdermal or does it have to be ingested?

david · 01-31-2004, 09:20 PM

Yep!! VPX for sure!

Power Rabbit · 02-01-2004, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IronSlingah
Im leaning towards VPX’s Methyl 1-Test (liquid?) for 14 days at 20g a day and then 14 days of aromadex. Can you use that transdermal or does it have to be ingested?

ingested

plouffe · 02-02-2004, 02:33 PM

If I'm not mistaken Liquid Nolva is less expensive then Aromadex - and probally more affective.

IronSlingah · 02-02-2004, 04:03 PM

Yes but for Nolva u need a Rx.

plouffe · 02-02-2004, 06:49 PM

Liquid Nolva = "Research Chemical" - www.universalkits.com

plouffe · 02-02-2004, 06:49 PM

I'm pretty sure I can post that source because it's a sponser...

prolangtum · 02-02-2004, 09:34 PM

there are much cheaper avenues for M 1T

IronSlingah · 02-02-2004, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by plouffe
Liquid Nolva = "Research Chemical" - www.universalkits.com

It says 50ML will that be enough for 14+ days? Dont u have to take about 30mg a day?

firestorm · 02-02-2004, 10:31 PM

I've never tried any other brand then Rich Gasparis 1-T. I prefer the oral capsules. I've been taking that oil stuff and haven't seen anything and it was hella spensive. My best gains to date were while I was taking the pill form from gasparinutrition.com It is expensive and really need to do some research myself to see who offers an excellent pill form that I can purchase from 1fast400 I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread myself.

**Prince** · 02-02-2004, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by firestorm
I've never tried any other brand then Rich Gasparis 1-T. I prefer the oral capsules. I've been taking that oil stuff and haven't seen anything and it was hella spensive. My best gains to date were while I was taking the pill form from gasparinutrition.com It is expensive and really need to do some research myself to see who offers an excellent pill form that I can purchase from 1fast400 I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread myself.

WHAT?!?!?!

You are totally against steroids and you use 1-Test?

Please explain this one...

PreMier · 02-02-2004, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IronSlingah
It says 50ML will that be enough for 14+ days? Dont u have to take about 30mg a day?

LOL... 20mg=1ml And you should only take 20mg ED. So yes there is pleeenty.

firestorm · 02-02-2004, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
WHAT?!?!?!

You are totally against steroids and you use 1-Test?

Please explain this one...

Sure Prince I would love to. 1st remember back to my anti steroid posts. I know you haven't read everything I've written but my arguments were as follows.
1. I'm against "kids" taking them before they reach adult hood. one reason was to allow them time to reach their natural potential. Secondly because they already have a high Test count around the age of 17. 3dly because of the maturity level. They are drugs not to be taken lightly. Teenagers have a tendancy to do over do things as we all know from experience.
2. I ranted and ranted to the point I actually bored myself by saying over and over again that I wasn't against the USE of steroids but the ABUSE of steroids. I even went to pain staking efforts in several posts admitting that I was not a user but an "abuser" with detailed accounts of the side effects abusers go through.
3. They are Illegal. If Prohormones became Illegal tomorrow, I would not contimplate purchasing them any longer.
Those are some of my arguments in the past regarding Illegal steroids.

firestorm · 02-02-2004, 11:18 PM

oh and also many people use such products as a crutch with the mind set of taking the easy way out. You just look at some of the photos of guys even in here taking steroids and they have no business doing so. there is no way in hell these 17 year old 160 pound kids have reached their potential naturally but they take them because they are easy to get and looking for an easy way to put on size.

prolangtum · 02-03-2004, 09:16 AM

So your only against illegal steroids, but legal steroids such as 1-T and M 1-T are okay? I can see with possible legal ramifications and having a family and all, but, besides that, illegal or legal they are both steroids and I cannot see the rationale behind taking the legal and condeming the legal, again, save the possible trouble with johnny law.

firestorm · 02-07-2004, 08:25 PM

NO PROLANGTUM NOOOO. Gosh,, I must really suck writing my feelings because I'm not getting the point across. Consider this thread being written with frustration not hostility.
my problems with steroids are as follows:
1. Steroid ABUSE ((((NOT))))) Steroid USE.
2. Underage users of eith Legal or Illeagal anabolics or Pro Hormones
3. The Legal Issue. Wasn't as big a deal back in the 80's and earlier before it became a Federal Offense. It was nothing more then a slap on the wrist if that... Usually a cop would just take it away from you. NOw you have court costs, Legal Fees, all money that could best serve your family if you have one. As for jail time,, I'm not up on the actual punishments but at worst,, more fines. All of which does not look good on anybodys permanent record.

firestorm · 02-07-2004, 08:37 PM

See what you started again Prince????? You hate my band standing and yet you force me to the pulpit.

OK I've see the light, I've changed my ways..... I want everyone to do whatever the hell they want to do, the only thing I,m against are those that stand against anything. Please feel free to shoot up , stick up, Pimp, ho or whatever suits your fancy. I'm all for it. Now hopefully we can focus on someone elses standpoints now.

01-30-2004, 04:49 PM	#1
IronSlingah Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 306	what kind of 1-test? BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Ok im going to start doing 1-test in a month after i do some research. My question is what kind should i buy? and how should i take it i see some threads talking about 300mg -900mg a day so which is best for someone around 200lbs with 15% bodyfat on his first cycle? Also i would like to know if this will help me lean down to 8% bodyfat or just give me mass with no real fatloss.

01-30-2004, 11:29 PM	#2
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02-02-2004, 02:33 PM	#7
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02-02-2004, 06:49 PM	#9
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	Liquid Nolva = "Research Chemical" - www.universalkits.com
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02-02-2004, 06:49 PM	#10
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	I'm pretty sure I can post that source because it's a sponser...
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01-31-2004, 05:32 PM	#3
165r COUP COUNTER Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: nj Posts: 69	I used 1 test from vpx. thought it was great, had impressive gains. gonna use it again.

01-31-2004, 09:08 PM	#4
IronSlingah Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 306	Im leaning towards VPX’s Methyl 1-Test (liquid?) for 14 days at 20g a day and then 14 days of aromadex. Can you use that transdermal or does it have to be ingested?

01-31-2004, 09:20 PM	#5
david EAST COAST BRAT Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waterworld, FL Posts: 25,419 Photos: 2	Yep!! VPX for sure!

02-02-2004, 04:03 PM	#8
IronSlingah Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 306	Yes but for Nolva u need a Rx.

02-02-2004, 09:34 PM	#11
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	there are much cheaper avenues for M 1T
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02-02-2004, 10:31 PM	#13
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	I've never tried any other brand then Rich Gasparis 1-T. I prefer the oral capsules. I've been taking that oil stuff and haven't seen anything and it was hella spensive. My best gains to date were while I was taking the pill form from gasparinutrition.com It is expensive and really need to do some research myself to see who offers an excellent pill form that I can purchase from 1fast400 I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread myself.

02-02-2004, 11:18 PM	#17
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	oh and also many people use such products as a crutch with the mind set of taking the easy way out. You just look at some of the photos of guys even in here taking steroids and they have no business doing so. there is no way in hell these 17 year old 160 pound kids have reached their potential naturally but they take them because they are easy to get and looking for an easy way to put on size.

02-03-2004, 09:16 AM	#18
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	So your only against illegal steroids, but legal steroids such as 1-T and M 1-T are okay? I can see with possible legal ramifications and having a family and all, but, besides that, illegal or legal they are both steroids and I cannot see the rationale behind taking the legal and condeming the legal, again, save the possible trouble with johnny law.
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02-07-2004, 08:25 PM	#19
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	NO PROLANGTUM NOOOO. Gosh,, I must really suck writing my feelings because I'm not getting the point across. Consider this thread being written with frustration not hostility. my problems with steroids are as follows: 1. Steroid ABUSE ((((NOT))))) Steroid USE. 2. Underage users of eith Legal or Illeagal anabolics or Pro Hormones 3. The Legal Issue. Wasn't as big a deal back in the 80's and earlier before it became a Federal Offense. It was nothing more then a slap on the wrist if that... Usually a cop would just take it away from you. NOw you have court costs, Legal Fees, all money that could best serve your family if you have one. As for jail time,, I'm not up on the actual punishments but at worst,, more fines. All of which does not look good on anybodys permanent record.

02-07-2004, 08:37 PM	#20
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	See what you started again Prince????? You hate my band standing and yet you force me to the pulpit. OK I've see the light, I've changed my ways..... I want everyone to do whatever the hell they want to do, the only thing I,m against are those that stand against anything. Please feel free to shoot up , stick up, Pimp, ho or whatever suits your fancy. I'm all for it. Now hopefully we can focus on someone elses standpoints now.

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