what's a good miceller casein/slow release protein powder?

OmarJackson · 02-02-2004, 10:34 PM

i've been looking at micellean, miceller matrix, evopro and problend 55 etc. It looks like VPX's micellean is the best, but also most expensive.

is ISS research a reputable company? cause miceller matrix looks like a good buy on paper.

what about cytosports evopro? how's there reputation?

aggies1ut · 02-03-2004, 08:15 AM

I currently have Evopro in Cookies 'N Creme. Tastes pretty good. I don't know much about Cytosport though, other than the fact that they make Muscle Milk.

atherjen · 02-03-2004, 08:36 AM

Problend 55 isn't bad. Ive had that before. in chocolate.

right now the blend that Im using, which is an egg/casein blend is Nutrabolics Isobolic.. in chocolate. LOVE it!

**gopro** · 02-03-2004, 09:11 AM

VPXs Micellean is best. I have been using it for years now. However, there ARE other good ones...

-Evopro from Cytosport
-Pro Fusion from Muscle Link
-Pro Peptide from Dorian
-Lean Mass Component from Prp Lab
-Isobolic from Nutribolics
-Isomatrix Reloaded from Syntrax

**dg806** · 02-03-2004, 09:23 AM

I'll give a thumbs up to Isomatrix Reloaded

**gopro** · 02-03-2004, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by dg806
I'll give a thumbs up to Isomatrix Reloaded

Somehow I knew you would

**dg806** · 02-03-2004, 10:37 AM

atherjen · 02-03-2004, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dg806
I'll give a thumbs up to Isomatrix Reloaded

have you tried both the vanilla and choc mixes? which one do you prefer?

Av8tor · 02-03-2004, 07:59 PM

Would this be the best type of protein to take before bed due to its slow release?

Why would you take this post workout if it's designed for slow release?

Thanks

PreMier · 02-03-2004, 08:00 PM

casein/egg protein before bed. And dont take it post w/o.

PreMier · 02-03-2004, 08:01 PM

Dorians pro peptide is best!

Testosterone · 02-03-2004, 10:03 PM

ProPeptide is one of the best alongwith Beverly's Muscle Provider (Truly THE BEST OF ALL).
It may sound same ingredientwise with all other protein blends available in the market today, but the quality of the protein these two incorporate in their protein powders, IS ULTIMATE.
In short, there is no other protein blend in the market that supass these two in terms of QUALITY & RESULTS.

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Originally posted by PreMier
Dorians pro peptide is best!

PreMier · 02-03-2004, 10:05 PM

Beverlys muscle provider... I will scope that out!

the Scarab · 02-03-2004, 11:39 PM

what about Designer Whey's Glycerlean ? Is it garbage?

greekblondechic · 02-04-2004, 12:00 AM

I use ISS's ProM3

Testosterone · 02-04-2004, 03:17 AM

Whatever you use, the ingedients always remain same in most formulas (Whey Isolates, Egg Albumen, Miceller Casein(Some manufacturers use Calcium Caseinates instead!))
But what sets Companies like Beverly or maybe Dorians apart is they get their raw materials customs manufactured to ensure the highest quality and maximum undenatured protein content.

Testosterone · 02-04-2004, 03:17 AM

Jay Cutler !!

Quote:

Originally posted by greekblondechic
I use ISS's ProM3

**gopro** · 02-04-2004, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Testosterone
Whatever you use, the ingedients always remain same in most formulas (Whey Isolates, Egg Albumen, Miceller Casein(Some manufacturers use Calcium Caseinates instead!))
But what sets Companies like Beverly or maybe Dorians apart is they get their raw materials customs manufactured to ensure the highest quality and maximum undenatured protein content.

VPX does this as well, just wanted to say.

Also, although I think that Beverly is an outstanding company I do not think that Muscle Provider is an optimal nighttime blend. In fact, its almost a better post workout powder. Its first three proteins are whey's, then lactalbumin, then egg albumin. These are fast acting and medium release proteins, and not optimal for a trickle feed effect.

**dg806** · 02-04-2004, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by atherjen
have you tried both the vanilla and choc mixes? which one do you prefer?

Yes, although I like the Vanilla where some don't, I am a chocolate person for protein and prefer the chocolate over vanilla.

OmarJackson · 02-04-2004, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro
VPX does this as well, just wanted to say.

Also, although I think that Beverly is an outstanding company I do not think that Muscle Provider is an optimal nighttime blend. In fact, its almost a better post workout powder. Its first three proteins are whey's, then lactalbumin, then egg albumin. These are fast acting and medium release proteins, and not optimal for a trickle feed effect.

what about beverly's ultra size?

Ingredients:
Beverly International Ultra Protein Blend (milk protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, egg white, hydrolyzed beef plasma), cream, maltodextrin, natural and artificial flavors, soy fiber, soy lecithin, Oil Blend (safflower oil, soy lecithin, medium chain triglycerides), mixed tocopherols added to protect flavor, ascorbyl palmitate added to protect flavor, sucralose, borage oil, gum arabic.

**gopro** · 02-04-2004, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by Yeah Buddy!
what about beverly's ultra size?

Ingredients:
Beverly International Ultra Protein Blend (milk protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, egg white, hydrolyzed beef plasma), cream, maltodextrin, natural and artificial flavors, soy fiber, soy lecithin, Oil Blend (safflower oil, soy lecithin, medium chain triglycerides), mixed tocopherols added to protect flavor, ascorbyl palmitate added to protect flavor, sucralose, borage oil, gum arabic.

This is better in terms of being a slower releasing protein, but is not in the same class as Micellean, Pro Peptide, Pro Fusion, or Isomatrix.

Its also high in carbs I believe?

XtremeFormula · 02-04-2004, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro
VPXs Micellean is best. I have been using it for years now. However, there ARE other good ones...

-Evopro from Cytosport
-Pro Fusion from Muscle Link
-Pro Peptide from Dorian
-Lean Mass Component from Prp Lab
-Isobolic from Nutribolics
-Isomatrix Reloaded from Syntrax

ok now how in the world did NutraBollocks make this list over my ultra peptide?

**dg806** · 02-04-2004, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XtremeFormula
ok now how in the world did NutraBollocks make this list over my ultra peptide?

Ultra peptide from xtremeforulations is good too!

**gopro** · 02-04-2004, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dg806

Ultra peptide from xtremeforulations is good too!

Yup, sorry...forgot that one! Xtreme is extremely good!

02-02-2004, 10:34 PM	#1
OmarJackson Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 299	what's a good miceller casein/slow release protein powder? i've been looking at micellean, miceller matrix, evopro and problend 55 etc. It looks like VPX's micellean is the best, but also most expensive. is ISS research a reputable company? cause miceller matrix looks like a good buy on paper. what about cytosports evopro? how's there reputation?
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atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	Problend 55 isn't bad. Ive had that before. in chocolate. right now the blend that Im using, which is an egg/casein blend is Nutrabolics Isobolic.. in chocolate. LOVE it!
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aggies1ut NorCal Elite Member* Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, Ca. Posts: 3,580 Photos: 19	I currently have Evopro in Cookies 'N Creme. Tastes pretty good. I don't know much about Cytosport though, other than the fact that they make Muscle Milk.

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Av8tor Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 161 Photos: 2	Would this be the best type of protein to take before bed due to its slow release? Why would you take this post workout if it's designed for slow release? Thanks

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PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,308 Photos: 2	casein/egg protein before bed. And dont take it post w/o.
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PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,308 Photos: 2	Dorians pro peptide is best!
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PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,308 Photos: 2	Beverlys muscle provider... I will scope that out!
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