Thread: PH, 19-nordiol, and Hair Loss

First off, let me say that I have done a ton of research and reading on these forums, and I think this is a great resource for unlocking information and improving the decision-making ability of strength athletes. I wish I had a resource like this when I was in college. Kudos.

Second, I would like to explain my conundrum:

I have never done a cycle of PH, since I have been concerned with sides (especially Hair Loss) and the earliest PHs didn't seem worth the risk. Plus, I was a competitive runner, and worried about testing.

But my how fast this science evolves! My brain is becomming an alphabet soup of letters and numbers! I was a competitive runner in high school and college, and spent 6 years at less than 5% bodyfat. Things have changed...with an office job, no threat of a bad performance on race day, and all the fine dining Chicago has to offer, I'm bigger than I've ever been (still only 15%bf+). So, I have been lifting for the past two years, and had great results with Creatine, Glutamine, Protein, and megadosing Arginine (7-10gms at bedtime---read the studies!!).

But it's time to turn things up a notch.

I have read a lot on this board about the effects and sides of the stronger andros 1-t/4-ad/M1T/Mag10 and the various PCTs, 6-oxo, Nolva, etc. I fully understand that strong androgen effects precipitate stronger androgenic side effects.

There has also been some discussion (but not nearly as much) on 19-Nordiol, and a synergistic stacker, 4-ad. I understand the first converts to nandroloneand the second to boldendone or test.

Is it true that a 19-nordiol stack is going to have nearly zero chance of exacerbating a predisposition to baldness?

With side-effects in mind, what would be the better stack: 19-nor/4-ad or 19-nor/1,4 andro?

Is it possible/worthwhile to make a methylated version of 19-nordiol?

Last does anyone care to share positive/negative experiences with 19-nor? I know it's not as "fashionable" as some of the stronger stuff, but I'm very interested!


THANKS!!

Yes you will still need post cycle. As to a methyl 19 nor, you would have to ask one of the chemical supp suppliers. I'm not sure what methyl 19 nor would convert to?