good stuff...where you get ahold of it? was sledge testin it out or something?
nah i was talkin to pro...tryin to figure out where the heck he got it so cheapOriginally posted by IronSlingah
www.kilosports.com
Bastard.Originally posted by prolangtum
it is an active steroid.
stronger than M 1T
better than M 1T
I have used it.
Just for fun (as i love to rub it in peoples faces, lol) 90 1mg tabs will retail anywhere from $40-$60.
I bought 1 gram for $16
bwahahahahahaha![]()
Pro did you see my PM to you on AM? I'll ask here. I know you had blood work done right after the m dien cycle. How did the liver values look? Meaning AST, ALT, and ALP.
The blues had a baby, and they named it Rock and Roll
It was a one time deal, i paid to beta test it, but at a bargain price. I have to go to the doc to get my blood test results, for some reason the lab sent them to him instead of directly to me.


Interesting fact I found. From Loki...............
Also, another issue is that the actual, tested lab assays for 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyestra-4,9(10)dien-3-one seem to just be, well, incorrect-- it's far more anabolic in humans than the levator ani assays on it have indicated. I mean, it scores a:
1. 200 - 2. 300 - 3. 1000 (vs. 17a-MT Oral-- the 'standard')[1.V.P/2. S.V./3. L.A.]
which puts it roughly about 110% the potency of 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-one (Methyl-1-Test). But-- just between 'you and me' -- well...
It's a LITTLE stronger than even that...
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And sides are definitely less?
I am thinking about buying the "buy 3 get 1 free" deal at designersupps right now!
You have a link to buy 3 get 1 free? When ar ethey coming out with tablets?
P-side Inc.
"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.
huh?Originally posted by dg806
Interesting fact I found. From Loki...............
Also, another issue is that the actual, tested lab assays for 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyestra-4,9(10)dien-3-one seem to just be, well, incorrect-- it's far more anabolic in humans than the levator ani assays on it have indicated. I mean, it scores a:
1. 200 - 2. 300 - 3. 1000 (vs. 17a-MT Oral-- the 'standard')[1.V.P/2. S.V./3. L.A.]
which puts it roughly about 110% the potency of 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-one (Methyl-1-Test). But-- just between 'you and me' -- well...
It's a LITTLE stronger than even that...


What do you mean huh?Originally posted by tomas101
huh?
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I am not one for supps and anabolics to have much of an effect in the way of efficacy or sides, but here is my comparison.
M1T -- most anabolic compound I have used
M-D -- slightly less anabolic than M1T, but not markedly so.
Edge: M1T
M1T -- mild sides at 30-40 mg, slight headaches and such.
M-D -- no sides to speak of at all at 4-5 mg per day.
Edge: M-D
Overall: if you can handle the sides of M1T, given the pricetag and the extra anabolic effect, I'd stick with M1T. If you can't handle the sides, M-D is an excellent alternative.
Either way, Sledge is your man.


Not trying to cause an arguement, but what I have seen is opposite. Better gains with M-Dien and no sides. Most people are saying M-Dien is better?Originally posted by Twin Peak
I am not one for supps and anabolics to have much of an effect in the way of efficacy or sides, but here is my comparison.
M1T -- most anabolic compound I have used
M-D -- slightly less anabolic than M1T, but not markedly so.
Edge: M1T
M1T -- mild sides at 30-40 mg, slight headaches and such.
M-D -- no sides to speak of at all at 4-5 mg per day.
Edge: M-D
Overall: if you can handle the sides of M1T, given the pricetag and the extra anabolic effect, I'd stick with M1T. If you can't handle the sides, M-D is an excellent alternative.
Either way, Sledge is your man.
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Is there a need to use either 6-OXO, Formastast or any other aromtase inhibitor after a methyldienolone cycle? Reason? If yes, which is the best value?
WT


Ever wonder where all these newbie questions come from after the LR bust??
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Everyone is different. I know Pro said his strength was better with M-D.
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Just ordered some M-D. I will be using it for a cycle in May, right before summer hits to lean up a bit.
"Show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you a guy tired of screwing her"
Since m dien just became available, its going to be interesting to read the reports coming in about its effectiveness, as more and more people are trying it.
Remember when M1T first came out? It was being called tren in a pill. Although we know M1T IS quite effective, that claim was definitely exaggerated.
The blues had a baby, and they named it Rock and Roll
When you guys talk about a prohormone/supplement that works, could you include a side note as to what dosage you used? (same for not working). thanks
So far I am going on day 20 of my 8 keep M-D cycle. I am taking it 3mg all the way through. the results I have noticed by itself is my muscles are getting harder for sure. But the weight hasn't started to come on until I stacked it with 1-TU. Now when I look in the mirror my muscles feel, and best of all LOOK fuller and thick. So in my opinion M-D is great, and even better when stacked with something else.
How much of the 1-tu are you taking?
If you already saw increased hardness (decreased body fat?), then why do you think the 1-tu is making the difference? Or, in other words, do you know why?
I was taking 150mg ED of the 1-tu. The muscles felt harder after about the first week on methyl D, Probably not due to rapid fat loss since I was eating a ton, but they just felt tighter and harder. The 1-TU is what I felt put on the size. I would say of the 18lbs I gained probably 8-9 from the methyl-d, and the rest from the 1-tu. I put on 6lbs in 4 days when I started the 1-tu. For me the methyl-d/1-tu has been by far my best PH cycle.


MD was banned in '05....
M. Ed. Ex Physiology
I still have some in 4mg. caps...check the buy/sell forum...


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