Another M1t Thread...

[19-chief]

MY ORIGINAL PLAN FOR MY CYCLE WAS:
WEEK 1: M1T 10MG
WEEK 2-4: M1T 15MG, 4DERM 300MG
WEEK 5: NOLVA 40MG, NAC, HAWTHORN BERRY
WEEK 6-7: NOLVA 20MG, NAC, HAWTHORN BERRY

I AM ON MY SECOND WEEK AND NOTICED A POST THE OTHER DAY ABOUT DOING THE 4AD BEYOND THE TEST B/C IT TAKES A WHILE FOR THE 4AD TO KICK IN... THUS, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I CAN TAKE THE 4AD NOT ONLY TO TO COMBAT SOME OF THE SIDES ASSOCIATED WITH THE TEST BUT ALSO REAP SOME ANABOLIC BENEFITS OF THE 4AD IF I STRETCH OUT THE 4AD CYCLE. AM I SEEING THIS RIGHT? IF SO, HOW LONG CAN THE 4AD CYCLE LAST HEALTH-WISE AND WHAT SHOULD MY PCT LOOK LIKE THEN? (P.S.-DOES 4AD AROMITIZE? SHOULD I BE TAKING SOME NOLVA RIGHT NOW?)

[Prince]

Yes, the 4-AD is mostly to counter the lethargy and loss of libido.

Not sure of your experience, but I found that 20mg's is when you really start to see results with M1T.

I would not use Nolva until the cycle is over, remember estrogen is necessary for an optimal anabolic environment.

[Power Rabbit]

if your extending the 4ad out...take it to like week 8....but dont start pct till after you finish the 4ad...other wise the pct will do nothing...4ad shuts you down just like m1t

[19-chief]

two more questions:

prince, i have thought about just going to 20mg but i just got a kick of taking 3, 5mg, tabs spread evenly throughout the day. if i go for 4 ed, how should i split them? (just thought taking 1 at a time with lots of water is a bit easier for the liver to handle. but in hindsite i remembered plenty of people take the 10mg tabs anyway)

rabbit, is the 4ad gonna continue to give me gains? and can i transition into maintenance and cardio to begin to lean out for summer?

[19-chief]

btw, i only have 2 bottle of 4derm, but i also have a bottle of 4ad orals... if i take the 4derm for 2 wks past the m1t, will that be enough of a break for my liver to go to 900mg (3 tabs of Ergopharm's Androdiol Select 30 ed fro 2 more wks?

[19-chief]

that last question is for anyone to answer.

[19-chief]

rabbit, is the 4ad gonna continue to give me gains? and can i transition into maintenance and cardio to begin to lean out for summer?

i mean maintenance kcal intake.

[Power Rabbit]

yes 4ad will give you gains starting around week 4...not as blantant as m1t, but still good...Yes you can even start cutting, but dont expect any big mass gains...when cutting, all gear does for the most part is keep you from losin alot of your hard earned lean muscle...you gains will be less than a bulk on matience or cutting, but the cycle will make it easier to cut..

[X Ring]

should you start the 4AD before the M1t if youa re going to cycle them like week 1&2 4ad; week 3,4,5&6 m1t and 4ad then week 7&8 continue 4 ad the PCT 9-12

[19-chief]

should you start the 4AD before the M1t if youa re going to cycle them like week 1&2 4ad; week 3,4,5&6 m1t and 4ad then week 7&8 continue 4 ad the PCT 9-12

ya lost me there xring... are you asking a questin or are you making a suggestion?

btw, i'm finding no real difference between 10mg's and 15... gonna bump it to 20 for the last week... that's thru this sunday.

[X Ring]

i was asking a questions sorry for the confusion