Syngex 1 & 2, M 1-T, Clenbutrx

giodante1 · 02-28-2004, 02:45 AM

I am 30 years old, weigh 205 pds, 5'10" about 17% body fat. Trying to get to 200 pds of lean solid muscle, 7% body fat. I did this when I was 25 therefore I know my determination is there. I gained so much body fat becuase of marriage & kids. Time to get back in the gym. Question is. I currently have Syngex 1 & 2, Monster 1-T, & Clenbutrx. How can I work these? Is this a good way to go or no?

week 1-2 or week 1-4
m1-t syngex 1
syngex 2 syngex 2
week 3-4 week 5-6
syngex 1 M1-T
syngex 2 syngex 2
week 5-8 week 7-8
clenbutrex clenbutrx

Is there anything that needs to be added? or subtracted? thank you for your comments.

I will take any recommendations. I have read about just taking the Syngex 1 & 2 together. That sounds great but when does the M1-T take place. When does the Clenbutrx take place. thanks to all.

brodus · 02-28-2004, 02:54 AM

How long have you been training?

Have you used Prohormones/Steroids before?

Do you eat and sleep right?

Are you making gains now?

I only ask because, to me, that looks like a pretty big load of chemicals to throw on your body for your first cycle, and it sounds like you haven't been in a gym for awhile. You'd be better off working out hard for six months and going from there. Plus you'll save $ !

giodante1 · 02-28-2004, 03:05 AM

I have worked out in the past I was up to 345 Bench press 5 years ago. I have been working out recently but it is so hard to get into the routine when you have been out for so long. I'am stocky right now but with the body fat I have gained it definitely needs to go. I have used in the past. I have the training aspect down, thats not a problem. I'am currently running 2 miles per day & lifting a bit, but there is no energy & slow gains becuase I have a low metabolism. thanks for your comment & questions brodus, please help with the cycle. I have done my homework. I need some assistance with the correct cycle. Is it correct to say that Syngex 2 has AD within therefore I can mix with M1-T? If you can please answer the other questions as well

brodus · 02-28-2004, 03:47 AM

Cool, just curious.

I'm not the expert on this stuff. I'm sure others on the board will critique it and give you feedback.

I know that M1T can be effectively stacked with 4AD to reduce the lethargy sides and help you hold onto your gains when you stop the M1T. I don't think either Syngex I or II has 4AD.

Syngex II is a combination of 19-nordiol, 1,4AD, and 4-Hydroxy Test. Again, I don't think you want to stack this with M1T b/c the 19-nor competes with it. It probably would work better with Syngex I.

You also don't mention anything about PCT--post-cycle-therapy--which is crucial to maintaining a healthy liver/prostate/testicular function and holding onto your gains. With as many substances as you have in that stack, and the duration, I wouldn't even know where to begin in terms of post recovery.

I think you need to choose either a 19-nor based cycle or an M1T cycle, and then do proper PCT, and see where you get, not both at once. On your plan above, with that much going into your system, you won't know which ones are working/not working, or what's giving you sides, especially since you haven't done these before. Plus, you'll save a lot of money if you do one proper cycle.

If your main goal is to get shredded, there are things that work well. Some of these PHs are mass-builders, and hence aren't going to get you "shredded," they're going to blow you up more.

And you're going to have to do a lot more than run 2 miles and lift a bit to see results from anything. You need a solid workout split, and a solid diet. That's why I'm leery of recommending any PH/PS, because they're not going to make you "ripped" if you're not shredding yourself in the gym.

If I were you I'd stick with a good thermogenic, some sort of thyroid activator, seriously alter eating and sleeping habits, start using creatine, CLA, ALA, and Phosphatdyl Serine, and maybe after a couple months try a short cycle of M1T if you're still not losing Bodyfat. My 2 cents.

I'm sure the VPX stuff is great, but it seems really expensive to me.
I don't see the point in stacking Syngex 1 and M1T. They're the same thing, just different delivery.

giodante1 · 02-28-2004, 04:01 AM

I do not want to mix Syngex 1 with M1T. I said Syngex 2 with M1T.
It looks to me that I will probably go the route of doing:

1st Cycle:
Syngex 1 & 2 = 1-4 weeks
Post Cycle:
????????

Where do I throw in Clenbutrx?

My second cycle will probably consist of the M1-T

What do be people recommend for the 1st cycle with what i have & for the post cycle. thank you

165r · 02-28-2004, 07:16 AM

Most of what I learned about cycling has come from guys on this site. So putting some of my learned knowlege to use, I would say that you should definately hold off on the cycling for a while. I would concentrate on cardio, diet, and getting the muscles back into memory with the weights. One thing I have learned is that M1T is serious shat and should only be used if you have cycled Pro sters and pro hors at least 3 times. I've seen guys cut pretty fast on good diets and supersets. Good luck.

jimmyboy · 02-29-2004, 02:43 AM

I would either do Syngex 1 and 2 for 4-6 weeks @ 8cc's per day followed by Aromadex at 8cc's per day for 4 weeks or MIT at 10-20 mg per day stacked with Dermabolics 4Derm 200mg twice daily followed by 2 bottles of 6oxo. DO NOT take syngex 1 or 2 with MIT at the same time.

giodante1 · 03-01-2004, 02:15 AM

I'am starting my Syngex 1 & 2 alone for 5 weeks. I will let you know my results.. I will get back on here before the 5 week period to see what i need to do next, thanks. So just to check. Syngex 1 & 2 by itself?

brodus · 03-01-2004, 03:22 AM

I think that's the consensus. Make sure you use PCT after. Please post your results! Good luck.

HugoBossnia · 03-01-2004, 10:07 PM

as m1t you are refering to just 1-testosterone or exactly the underground labs one?

02-28-2004, 02:45 AM	#1
giodante1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: seattle, WA Posts: 7 Photos: 1	Syngex 1 & 2, M 1-T, Clenbutrx I am 30 years old, weigh 205 pds, 5'10" about 17% body fat. Trying to get to 200 pds of lean solid muscle, 7% body fat. I did this when I was 25 therefore I know my determination is there. I gained so much body fat becuase of marriage & kids. Time to get back in the gym. Question is. I currently have Syngex 1 & 2, Monster 1-T, & Clenbutrx. How can I work these? Is this a good way to go or no? week 1-2 or week 1-4 m1-t syngex 1 syngex 2 syngex 2 week 3-4 week 5-6 syngex 1 M1-T syngex 2 syngex 2 week 5-8 week 7-8 clenbutrex clenbutrx Is there anything that needs to be added? or subtracted? thank you for your comments. I will take any recommendations. I have read about just taking the Syngex 1 & 2 together. That sounds great but when does the M1-T take place. When does the Clenbutrx take place. thanks to all.
	5'10" 30 years old 205 pounds trying to get solid 200 pds & shredded

02-28-2004, 02:54 AM	#2
brodus Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 945	How long have you been training? Have you used Prohormones/Steroids before? Do you eat and sleep right? Are you making gains now? I only ask because, to me, that looks like a pretty big load of chemicals to throw on your body for your first cycle, and it sounds like you haven't been in a gym for awhile. You'd be better off working out hard for six months and going from there. Plus you'll save $ !
	Graham Cousens Band My Space http://www.flymantell.com http://www.bifunkal.com http://www.livebandkaraokechicago.com http://www.worldclassnoise.com

02-28-2004, 03:05 AM	#3
giodante1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: seattle, WA Posts: 7 Photos: 1	I have worked out in the past I was up to 345 Bench press 5 years ago. I have been working out recently but it is so hard to get into the routine when you have been out for so long. I'am stocky right now but with the body fat I have gained it definitely needs to go. I have used in the past. I have the training aspect down, thats not a problem. I'am currently running 2 miles per day & lifting a bit, but there is no energy & slow gains becuase I have a low metabolism. thanks for your comment & questions brodus, please help with the cycle. I have done my homework. I need some assistance with the correct cycle. Is it correct to say that Syngex 2 has AD within therefore I can mix with M1-T? If you can please answer the other questions as well
	5'10" 30 years old 205 pounds trying to get solid 200 pds & shredded

02-28-2004, 03:47 AM	#4
brodus Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 945	Cool, just curious. I'm not the expert on this stuff. I'm sure others on the board will critique it and give you feedback. I know that M1T can be effectively stacked with 4AD to reduce the lethargy sides and help you hold onto your gains when you stop the M1T. I don't think either Syngex I or II has 4AD. Syngex II is a combination of 19-nordiol, 1,4AD, and 4-Hydroxy Test. Again, I don't think you want to stack this with M1T b/c the 19-nor competes with it. It probably would work better with Syngex I. You also don't mention anything about PCT--post-cycle-therapy--which is crucial to maintaining a healthy liver/prostate/testicular function and holding onto your gains. With as many substances as you have in that stack, and the duration, I wouldn't even know where to begin in terms of post recovery. I think you need to choose either a 19-nor based cycle or an M1T cycle, and then do proper PCT, and see where you get, not both at once. On your plan above, with that much going into your system, you won't know which ones are working/not working, or what's giving you sides, especially since you haven't done these before. Plus, you'll save a lot of money if you do one proper cycle. If your main goal is to get shredded, there are things that work well. Some of these PHs are mass-builders, and hence aren't going to get you "shredded," they're going to blow you up more. And you're going to have to do a lot more than run 2 miles and lift a bit to see results from anything. You need a solid workout split, and a solid diet. That's why I'm leery of recommending any PH/PS, because they're not going to make you "ripped" if you're not shredding yourself in the gym. If I were you I'd stick with a good thermogenic, some sort of thyroid activator, seriously alter eating and sleeping habits, start using creatine, CLA, ALA, and Phosphatdyl Serine, and maybe after a couple months try a short cycle of M1T if you're still not losing Bodyfat. My 2 cents. I'm sure the VPX stuff is great, but it seems really expensive to me. I don't see the point in stacking Syngex 1 and M1T. They're the same thing, just different delivery.
	Graham Cousens Band My Space http://www.flymantell.com http://www.bifunkal.com http://www.livebandkaraokechicago.com http://www.worldclassnoise.com

02-28-2004, 04:01 AM	#5
giodante1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: seattle, WA Posts: 7 Photos: 1	I do not want to mix Syngex 1 with M1T. I said Syngex 2 with M1T. It looks to me that I will probably go the route of doing: 1st Cycle: Syngex 1 & 2 = 1-4 weeks Post Cycle: ???????? Where do I throw in Clenbutrx? My second cycle will probably consist of the M1-T What do be people recommend for the 1st cycle with what i have & for the post cycle. thank you
	5'10" 30 years old 205 pounds trying to get solid 200 pds & shredded

02-28-2004, 07:16 AM	#6
165r COUP COUNTER Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: nj Posts: 69	Most of what I learned about cycling has come from guys on this site. So putting some of my learned knowlege to use, I would say that you should definately hold off on the cycling for a while. I would concentrate on cardio, diet, and getting the muscles back into memory with the weights. One thing I have learned is that M1T is serious shat and should only be used if you have cycled Pro sters and pro hors at least 3 times. I've seen guys cut pretty fast on good diets and supersets. Good luck.
	"A camel would sooner pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man make it into heaven." JESUS

02-29-2004, 02:43 AM	#7
jimmyboy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 77	I would either do Syngex 1 and 2 for 4-6 weeks @ 8cc's per day followed by Aromadex at 8cc's per day for 4 weeks or MIT at 10-20 mg per day stacked with Dermabolics 4Derm 200mg twice daily followed by 2 bottles of 6oxo. DO NOT take syngex 1 or 2 with MIT at the same time.
jimmyboy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 77

03-01-2004, 02:15 AM	#8
giodante1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: seattle, WA Posts: 7 Photos: 1	I'am starting my Syngex 1 & 2 alone for 5 weeks. I will let you know my results.. I will get back on here before the 5 week period to see what i need to do next, thanks. So just to check. Syngex 1 & 2 by itself?
	5'10" 30 years old 205 pounds trying to get solid 200 pds & shredded

03-01-2004, 03:22 AM	#9
brodus Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 945	I think that's the consensus. Make sure you use PCT after. Please post your results! Good luck.
	Graham Cousens Band My Space http://www.flymantell.com http://www.bifunkal.com http://www.livebandkaraokechicago.com http://www.worldclassnoise.com

03-01-2004, 10:07 PM	#10
HugoBossnia Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tucson, Az Posts: 30 Photos: 2	as m1t you are refering to just 1-testosterone or exactly the underground labs one?

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