Thread: My METHYLDIENOLONE log

You gonna run 25 days straight?
I ordered some today also.

where are you getting it from and what brand?

Sldge(Matt) @ designersupps.com
50ml(1mg/ml) $30
He will have tabs very soon. Word is that 1fast will soon be carrying it(possibly from Matt)

The only suggestion I would make Flexster would be to up your training volume, and train 5 or 6 days a week while 'on'. Doing so will take advantage of the increased protein synthesis and upregulation of androgen receptors that a steroid like methyldienolone provides.

Originally posted by dg806
Sldge(Matt) @ designersupps.com
50ml(1mg/ml) $30
He will have tabs very soon. Word is that 1fast will soon be carrying it(possibly from Matt)

As soon as Matt gets the tabs in, I'm placing an order. I think you're right about 1fast carrying Matt's tabs.

Having run two M1T cycles, the last one for 4 weeks, I can't wait to use something even more potent, yet has no lethargy, or suppression of appetite.

Originally posted by Prince
where are you getting it from and what brand?

got it from slegde over at designersupps.

Originally posted by JerseyDevil
The only suggestion I would make Flexster would be to up your training volume, and train 5 or 6 days a week while 'on'. Doing so will take advantage of the increased protein synthesis and upregulation of androgen receptors that a steroid like methyldienolone provides.

Might do that JerseyDevil.

Originally posted by JerseyDevil


Having run two M1T cycles, the last one for 4 weeks, I can't wait to use something even more potent, yet has no lethargy, or suppression of appetite.

Did you read my quote from Loki on the other M-dien thread?? Awesome..............

Originally posted by flexster
Might do that JerseyDevil.

Originally posted by dg806
Did you read my quote from Loki on the other M-dien thread?? Awesome..............

Kewl! Without a doubt it is more potent. IIRC Prolangtum, an experienced gear user, gained 12 lbs in three weeks on m dien (he used 5 mg ED however!). With M1T he only gained a couple of pounds.

Still anxiously awaiting Sldge's newsletter detailing Pro's liver enyzme values. I got the impression they were high, but within reason. His doc was more concerned with low HDL.

Is methyldienolone something you would stack with a PH like 4ad (or any other one)? I know one of the reasons most stack 4ad with M1t is to offset some of the sides, but the sides the 4ad helps beat while on M1t arent as severe with this product so is there the need to do it and is there any benefit or harm to consider from doing this? Thanks guys

Originally posted by dg806
You gonna run 25 days straight?
I ordered some today also.

Whats wrong with a 25 day cycle since it has 15% of the sides of M1T?

Iron Slingah you really need to research what this statement means.

"Without a doubt, Methyl-D™ is the most potent prosteroid ever developed and sold in the world to date as it is about 1.1x as anabolic as Methyl-1-Testosterone is while being only 15% as androgenic."

Being 15% as androgenic does NOT mean it only has 15% of the sides of M1T. Far from it. I quote from the FAQ posted here from Loki "methyldienolone is probably also the most hepatotoxic commercially-available 17aa-androgen currently."

Do you know what hepatotoxic means? It means simply 'toxic to the liver'. The comparison of anabolic and androgenic is weighing the compound's tissue building properties (anabolic) vs. its masculinzing (androgenic) effects. It has NOTHING to do with safety.

JD I understand your point to IS but do you have and issue with 25 days? I understand it is potent but so is M1t and that is commonly run for 28 days (4 weeks).

Originally posted by X Ring
Is methyldienolone something you would stack with a PH like 4ad (or any other one)? I know one of the reasons most stack 4ad with M1t is to offset some of the sides, but the sides the 4ad helps beat while on M1t arent as severe with this product so is there the need to do it and is there any benefit or harm to consider from doing this? Thanks guys

Again .... from the Methyldienolone FAQ posted here -
"750mcg-1000mcg (1mg) of methyldienolone can also be used in stacks with other androgens as well, although it is NOT recommended the use of methyldienolone in conjuction with aromatizing androgens such as 4-androstenediol (4AD) due to the potential incidence of progesterone-induced side-effects, which can negatively affect mood, skin appearance, insulin sensitivity, and vascularity, among other potentially-detrimental occurences/conditions."

Don't want to scare any one, but supposedly progesterone induced gyno can not be remedied by simply using Nolvadex. Obviously this is an important consideration, so if anyone else has better information, please chime in. But for now, I won't be stacking with 4AD.

Originally posted by X Ring
JD I understand your point to IS but do you have and issue with 25 days? I understand it is potent but so is M1t and that is commonly run for 28 days (4 weeks).

Like you, I was planning on 2 mg ED for 21 days. I think we should all be cautious until we get more feedback on this compound. M1T caused some odd sides like back pain, headaches, nose bleeds, etc, none of which I experienced. Who knows what we will hear down the road about m dien.

My earlier post was more in reference to the logic that because its 15% less androgenic it must be 85% safer, which is completely incorrect.

hes right... progest gyno is something only bromo can fight...and bromo aint easy to find and aint cheap...

i doubt the progest effects would be as bad as fina/deca though...correct me if im wrong

Originally posted by JerseyDevil
Iron Slingah you really need to research what this statement means.

"Without a doubt, Methyl-D™ is the most potent prosteroid ever developed and sold in the world to date as it is about 1.1x as anabolic as Methyl-1-Testosterone is while being only 15% as androgenic."

Being 15% as androgenic does NOT mean it only has 15% of the sides of M1T. Far from it. I quote from the FAQ posted here from Loki "methyldienolone is probably also the most hepatotoxic commercially-available 17aa-androgen currently."

Do you know what hepatotoxic means? It means simply 'toxic to the liver'. The comparison of anabolic and androgenic is weighing the compound's tissue building properties (anabolic) vs. its masculinzing (androgenic) effects. It has NOTHING to do with safety.

I know what your saying but 25 days is not going to destroy a healthy adults liver when it takes years of drinking hard liquor to cause damage to the liver.

What do you use for PCT with this?? Damn I also have 12 bottles of M1t still to use

Originally posted by IronSlingah
I know what your saying but 25 days is not going to destroy a healthy adults liver when it takes years of drinking hard liquor to cause damage to the liver.

Like I said in my post to X Ring, my point wasn't that 25 days is too long, but rather the logic that because its 15% less androgenic it must be 85% safer, which is not true. You had mentioned this in other posts, so I just wanted to make sure you and others understood this since it is very important to do so. Peace.

Originally posted by IronSlingah
I know what your saying but 25 days is not going to destroy a healthy adults liver when it takes years of drinking hard liquor to cause damage to the liver.

You simply do not know that. 1mg of M-Dien is = to about 10mg M1t. And it is more toxic than M-1T. Go figure..............................

I may not go the entire 25 days, I was simpling saying that I will get 25 days out of the bottle. I will decide based on what my body tells me. Im not a drinker but that doesnt mean that my liver wont have any problems. I am hoping to go the full 25 days but we will see.

I would definately use liver protection............

Originally posted by dg806
I would definately use liver protection............

during the cycle or wait til afterwards?

During.......

Ive got milk thistle, should I add some NAC?

I would. Along with some Vit. C and Pantothenic acid for acne.

Well I weighed in today for the first time since starting my cycle Monday night. Im still at 221. I wasnt expecting anything this soon anyway.

I did legs today and had an ok workout, nothing special.