Thread: Getting there without supplements

It's stupid to do, should still stick with Vitamin E + C, and Multi.. That's all cheap. Maybe EFA's too.

from my experiance supplements (other than AS) are for pure convenience. meaning, you can achieve everything you do with supplements simply by eating whole foods.

for example, i could bring egg whites and white rice to the gym and use that post workout, but it is a lot easier (and cheaper) to put a scoop of whey and a scoop of dextrose in a shaker and take that with me instead.

Id keep takeing multies, frack the rest, nothing beats food.

Originally posted by plouffe
It's stupid to do, should still stick with Vitamin E + C, and Multi.. That's all cheap. Maybe EFA's too.

Oh yeah. No, I take my vitamins and minerals. I don´t consider this to be exactly supplements since I take them for years. The thing that changed after bodybuilding is that I increased the intake of some micronutrients.
Oh, EFA is expensive here

Sam's Club

$10 for 300 FISHOIL --- 1000mg each.

If you take your vitamins and get enough food you'll be fine. If you can't get enough protein from food, Optimum 100% Whey is probably cheaper than most meals with 33g of protein (23g+10g from the milk). Each shake costs $0.34 including shipping in the 10 lb bags.

www.allthewhey.com is cheaper than optimum.

Originally posted by PreMier
www.allthewhey.com is cheaper than optimum.

It is but I've never tried it and I wouldn't promote a supplement that I haven't tried.

Ah, but it must be good... Its a site sponsor. Plus Prince uses it, and anything that Prince uses is good enough for me.

Originally posted by PreMier
Ah, but it must be good... Its a site sponsor. Plus Prince uses it, and anything that Prince uses is good enough for me.

I guess so. If I get a testimonial from someone that says that the chocolate flavor tastes good I would probably try it.

Im buying their Isolate next. I will let ya know. I only like chocolate.

One of the things I really like about Optimum whey is the fact it mixes so easily in a shaker bottle. I wonder if allthewhey mixes as well.

Food is your best source for nutrients, Eggs and Fish specially, Whey is cheaper than Eggs this days, and the demand for creatine has made it very cheap.

I think that supplements are essential for todays bodybuilding world...

The whole idea of supplements are the fact that they are supposed to be just that.. SUPPLEMENTS. REPLACEMENTS for food, when food is not available. If you have plenty of good food, then your need for supplements drastically decreases.

I would say try to stick with at least 2 supplements though

Multi vitamins
Protein Powder.

I only use those two, plus creatine ( with the occasional m1-t) and I am making wonderful progress.

Dont be fooled, supplements dont make you big, eating right and training right make you big.

stick with only multi's and post protein shakes....forget about the rest....

food is best....

i'm currently doing the whole natural thing right now....my gains are good.....i think its all that dam salmon i eat....

Man, i don't you just import?
I do the same!





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Além disso eu sou Portuga!

Originally posted by darklight
Man, i don't you just import?
I do the same!
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Além disso eu sou Portuga!

Because it is more expensive. I have to pay a fee 60% of the value of the product and there is the enormous exchange rate.(3x) The only thing that I will buy soon is PH´s and books.

Você é de Portugal ? Que parte?
Eu tenho uma grande vontade de visitar o seu país. Você não imagina o quanto nós brasileiros somos diferentes. Faz o que por ai ? Trabalha ou apenas vai para a academia ?

Originally posted by Vieope
Você é de Portugal ? Que parte?
Eu tenho uma grande vontade de visitar o seu país. Você não imagina o quanto nós brasileiros somos diferentes. Faz o que por ai ? Trabalha ou apenas vai para a academia ?

Translation...

Do you live/speak in portugal/portugese? What part?
blah blah... something big and visitors. Something about imagining brazil is different or not much different. Faz o que por ai(have no clue)? Something about school...

So, how did I do

Originally posted by PreMier
Translation...

Do you live/speak in portugal/portugese? What part?
blah blah... something big and visitors. Something about imagining brazil is different or not much different. Faz o que por ai(have no clue)? Something about school...

So, how did I do

WTF.. you cracked the code ? You did very good.
Eu sei que você vai usar um tradutor para tentar decifrar essa frase.

I took two years of spanish a loooong time ago. Some of the words look similar
Dont know what you wrote... I know bits and pioeces, but cant make anything out of it.

Vieope:

But did you ever tried to import? Worked great for me... no taxes and no stopping at the customs!
As i say, i do it and i am at the other side of the sea!
The PH's pass?



PreMier:
I am impressed! If you only used your knowleadge and your
deductive insticts i must say that you did great for only two years of spanish! You missunderstood some parts, but you have the keys in yoour hand...

I'll translate:

Originally posted by Vieope

Você é de Portugal ? Que parte?
Eu tenho uma grande vontade de visitar o seu país. Você não imagina o quanto nós brasileiros somos diferentes. Faz o que por ai ? Trabalha ou apenas vai para a academia ?

Are you from Portugal ? Wich part?
I have a great will to visit your country. You just don't imagine
how we, brazilian, are different. What do you do? Work or just go to the training academy ?


-Shoud be similar to this one, but i could be better translated for your understanding!




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Sou de Coimbra, Centro de Portugal!
Aproveita umas férias para fazer uma visita! É fxolas, mas
muito diferente do vosso país!
Ha ppl brasileiro na minha academia...Aliás eles tao aí agr
de férias(N sei bem onde...), aproveitaram o carnaval daí!
Estudo Engenheria Mecanica e obviamente academia , mas
ando a baldar-me e tenho de me aplicar para acabar o curso!

Yeah Premier, it is quite impressive that you could understand that. Portuguese is a difficult language to understand. English is so easy .

darklight, What do you mean with import ? I think that is exactly what I am saying. If I buy anything here, that is not books, they will ask for huge fees.
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Coimbra, estou procurando agora algumas imagens da sua cidade. Eu acabei de ver um filme frances chamado "L´auberge Espagnole" que mostra a cidade de Barcelona, estou impressionado como é bonita aquela cidade. Será que Coimbra é parecida com o resto da Europa ? O que tem de melhor na sua cidade ?
Bem que você poderia passar um tempo no Brasil, ver as praias, especialmente no carnaval.
Você vai acabar fazendo um grande favor pra mim , qual o site da sua faculdade ? Eu queria saber se existem faculdades europeias que aceitam alunos brasileiros para fazer um ou dois anos do curso de graduacao. Uma especie de intercambio seria bem-vindo.
E as mulheres de Portugal ? Como estão ?

Yes, but they most of the times don't stop in the customs! It depends...
Well, i knew about they were asking for brazialians passport in the US border... I don't know if they always check the packages...

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Barcelona é diferente, já é uma cidade mt maior! Mas Lisboa tb é impecavel!
A minha ciade é mt mais pequena! Nao, é diferente de Lisboa! e Lisboa é sp um bocado diferente d rersto das capitais europeias! Mmo Espanha é ligeiramente diferente! Mas damo-nos bem com os nuestros hermanos!
O que a minha cidade tem de melhor é sem duvida alguma a universidade! Ela praticamente gira ha centenas de anos ha volta dos estudantes e da universidade! O que mtas vezes é mau, pk a cidade nao evolui no aspecto de mtos sairem dp de cá com o curso ja tirado em vez de ficarem!
Vê o site!
http://www.uc.pt/

Esses meus amigos que treinam comigo agr nao estao cá, tao aí , mas dp posso perguntar-lhes! Pk um esta a fazer o doutoramento em farmacia e outro tá a acabar eng. química!
O de farmácia nao sei se tirou ca a licenciatura.. Mas o de eng. química transferiu para cá a meio do curso e teve alguns problemas com as equivalencias, mas nada de grave!

As mulheres daki são sp fxolas! Mas como em todo o lado, boas e mas!

Otimo, eu vou checar sobre a sua faculdade e pesquisar qual a política em relação a estudantes internacionais.
Aparece mais vezes por aqui, principalmente pela parte da noite, é mais facil de se comunicar. Se eu não me engano, existe um outro portugues por aqui e mais um brasileiro.

Thanks guys. I need to learn Purtugese so I can visit Vieope in Brazil. I need to find myself a hot gf there

Originally posted by PreMier
Thanks guys. I need to learn Purtugese so I can visit Vieope in Brazil. I need to find myself a hot gf there

Yep, carnival and barbecue of anaconda.

Mmm snake... Have you captured and cooked one yet?

There is no way I am gonna do that. Anaconda are like 8 meters.. and yes, they kill. If you will not be able to have you favorite dish here, there is plenty of nice brazilian food.