OMG i dont believe it.

zenith · 03-10-2004, 06:24 PM

I dont know if you remember but quite awhile ago about 6 weeks or so when i joined these boards i asked about a product called KOMPLETE by lamuscle.

Most of you said its a waste of money and expensive and just like a normal weight gainer with glut and creatine.

Anyway i thought i have to post this because ive started of a 3 day split routine with the weights and bench i brought and i used komplete for 3 weeks and ive gone up by 24 pounds its unbelieveable this stuff really does work.

I thought id have to post to tel u all about it, it is 70 quid for 10 days supply so i buy 3 for 165 with 1 weeks work wage and use it for a month im gonna carry on using this all the time cause its amazing.

you should all check it out i dont know why its working so well its not excatly got roids in it.

PreMier · 03-10-2004, 06:40 PM

Are you a newbie? That could be the cause of it working "so well".

Vieope · 03-10-2004, 06:52 PM

It must be water from the creatine and fat.
Did you check your bf before and now ?
Sorry for not believing in it

tomas101 · 03-10-2004, 06:52 PM

why do u have to rain on his parade

edit: premier

Power Rabbit · 03-10-2004, 06:53 PM

Premiller makes a great point. When anyone first starts lifting they make ridiculous gains at first....they will eventually slow down...so the 24 pounds that you went up means nearly nothing without your background(years spent lifting, height, weight, body fat%)

If you are just starting out, its not impressive...but say your 5,8 at 220 lbs at 8% and gained 20+ pounds then it would be "amazeing"

PreMier · 03-10-2004, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tomas101
why do u have to rain on his parade

edit: premier

Im not raining on anyones parade. I am simply stating that it is FACT that newbies gain more muscle faster, then someone who has been lifting continously.

Vieope · 03-10-2004, 06:56 PM

That is true.

22"bi's · 03-10-2004, 07:51 PM

ditto

camarosuper6 · 03-10-2004, 08:07 PM

Yea.... 24 lbs in 3 weeks? Even for a newbie thats unreal. I would have to say that at least half of that is water, fat and clothes.

zenith · 03-11-2004, 04:11 AM

okay no im not newbie ive bodybuild for 3 years ive just started after stopping for about 6 months again. i originaly weighed 140 lb so not massive im now on about 160 lbs and its 3 weeks after using this im bigger and more cut so its not all water or fat,
it does say this product is fot people who have have hit a platue.
i havent uped my calorie intake or anything while on this and its not loaded with fat at all only 6grams per serving.

zenith · 03-11-2004, 04:19 AM

okay ive reading the contents on this and apart from vitamens i cant see where the weight gain is coming from it does have some good ingrediants thought ill write the ones that could be causing it.
MALTODEXTRIN PFX is some sort of suger i think they dont label how much of this stuff is in here.

DEXTROSE 25g helps with insulin i think dont know about weight

SUPER-MICRONISED CREATINE MONOHYDRATE - 5g water weight or responding well to it

LA GLUTAMINE - 5g this might help =||||||||

CONJUGATED LINOLEIC ACID (CLA) - 2g i think this is helping lower my fat cause im deffinatly losing my belly.

ALPHA LIPOIC ACID (ALA) - 200mg ive seen on forums this is good

TAURINE - 1g this is ment to be good 2

ACETYL CARNITINE (ALC) - 500mg seen good reviews on site on this

ZINC MONOMETHIONINE ASPARTATE - 485mg not sure about this but does have good feed back

NIACIN - 84% RDA a good vitamen

FOLIC ACID - 175% RDA good vitamen again

theirs a few more incrediants but these are the ones that i think must be causing the transformation !!!!!!! ive never used many of these before so maybe its the creatine ribose and dextrose combination ???

Eggs · 03-11-2004, 06:26 AM

We'd like to see pics please. Before pics too preferably...

Gaining 24lbs in 3 weeks is better than steroidal performance in alot of cases... and the most potent things out there were the recent production of M1T and Methyldienolone, and I'm almost positive that those wont pack on 24lbs of lean muscle mass in 3 weeks

I'm not sure what the deal is, but that amount is rather unrealistic... I'd loved to be proven wrong though.

BruceWayNE · 03-11-2004, 07:38 AM

^^^^^^^What he said^^^^^^^

maze · 03-11-2004, 08:56 AM

OMG, this stuff is about $8 a serving !!!!

Here is an interview with the owner of LA Muscle:
http://www.sports-supplements.co.uk/...erview-mrx.php

Eggs · 03-11-2004, 09:10 AM

Yeah, it costs 70 British pounds I think... and each serving must be in the neighborhood of 80g. So what I'm thinking is that its at least $8 a serving. Thats rediculous!

zenith · 03-11-2004, 10:37 AM

what are you saying its over priced ? i will try and get pics on here
and lamuscle allso say 70 pounds is cheap as all the supplements add up to 500 pounds together whats in komplete

camarosuper6 · 03-11-2004, 10:42 AM

8 dollars a serving is like going out to eat every day. WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. There is a nice MRP on bulknutrition for a dollar a packet.

Eggs · 03-11-2004, 10:55 AM

Zenith, those supplements would add up to that if you bought them in bulk. I dont really see any truly expensive item in that list

**Mudge** · 03-11-2004, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zenith
Most of you said its a waste of money and expensive and just like a normal weight gainer with glut and creatine.

you should all check it out i dont know why its working so well its not excatly got roids in it.

Doesn't matter if it had roids in it, other than water weight, weight gain comes from caloric increase. So yes, a weight gainer will put weight on you, unless you drop a meal because of it.

If you eat more calories you will weigh more, I'm not shocked.

BabsieGirl · 03-11-2004, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zenith
I dont know if you remember but quite awhile ago about 6 weeks or so when i joined these boards i asked about a product called KOMPLETE by lamuscle.

Most of you said its a waste of money and expensive and just like a normal weight gainer with glut and creatine.

Anyway i thought i have to post this because ive started of a 3 day split routine with the weights and bench i brought and i used komplete for 3 weeks and ive gone up by 24 pounds its unbelieveable this stuff really does work.

I thought id have to post to tel u all about it, it is 70 quid for 10 days supply so i buy 3 for 165 with 1 weeks work wage and use it for a month im gonna carry on using this all the time cause its amazing.

you should all check it out i dont know why its working so well its not excatly got roids in it.

Congrats hon. Do what works for you & keep up the good work

BabsieGirl · 03-11-2004, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
Doesn't matter if it had roids in it, other than water weight, weight gain comes from caloric increase. So yes, a weight gainer will put weight on you, unless you drop a meal because of it.

If you eat more calories you will weigh more, I'm not shocked.

If you eat more, you'll gain more. That's not entirely true for all people. Metabolism also comes into play. Some people can eat and eat yet never gain any weight. This is a fact for my husband and many more men and women out there.

If this person didn't change up the diet rather, chose to add another supplement which, helped acquire such desire, then I think for him, it's a good product and he should continue his use until desired results are achieved.

zenith · 03-11-2004, 02:38 PM

thanks babsie :0) and as for it adding more calroies its only 250 each serving not really a big calorie increase ?

**Mudge** · 03-11-2004, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
That's not entirely true for all people. Metabolism also comes into play. Some people can eat and eat yet never gain any weight.

So you are saying that metabolism magically just goes up or down based on how much some people eat? I dont believe it, not for a second.

How else does a 137 pound guy get to nearly high 290s, hmmmmm maybe its that 7k-8k calories he eats every day.

**Mudge** · 03-11-2004, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zenith
thanks babsie :0) and as for it adding more calroies its only 250 each serving not really a big calorie increase ?

Then it doesn't classify as a weight gainer at all. My protein powder at home which is near zero carb, is 240 calories for 2, small servings, in water.

iron jock · 03-11-2004, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maze
OMG, this stuff is about $8 a serving !!!!

Here is an interview with the owner of LA Muscle:
http://www.sports-supplements.co.uk/...erview-mrx.php

Eight bucks a serving?

doesn't sound like a good deal to me. Sound more like a waste of money.

BabsieGirl · 03-11-2004, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
So you are saying that metabolism magically just goes up or down based on how much some people eat? I dont believe it, not for a second.

No!

Quote:

How else does a 137 pound guy get to nearly high 290s, hmmmmm maybe its that 7k-8k calories he eats every day.

If weight gainer and eating more calories (because of the metabolism), such as your count above, doesn't work, then it would seem pretty clear the only other route this person would've taken is, juice!

You said, "If you eat more calories you will weigh more."

Then I said, "That's not entirely true for all people. Metabolism also comes into play." Fact!

What I meant was, for certain people, you can eat like a pig, yet have a fast metabolism and not put on any weight period. Regardless of what you eat and/or how often. Often enough, weight gainer usually doesn't work for these people. I know many men who work there hind ends off, eating, working out, taking weight gainer etc.......they don't put on any weight!

This is why I said, that statement wasn't entirely true for all people!

**Mudge** · 03-11-2004, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iron jock
Eight bucks a serving?

doesn't sound like a good deal to me. Sound more like a waste of money.

$8 for 250 calories, someone is getting rich.

Quote:

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
Then I said, "That's not entirely true for all people. Metabolism also comes into play." Fact!

Yes, which is why you have to eat more than a person with a slower metabolism. I dont have a fast metabolism at all and I still have to eat around 5k calories a day to maintain my meager bodyweight.

Unless you have a severely low red blood cell count, juice is not going to put weight on you other than water, without you increasing your calories.

Metabolism always comes into play, diet always comes into play, you make it sound like it does not which is false. If you are fat or skinny or "normal," trying to change that requires diet, not drugs. Since you have not used steroids I think you trying to preach to the choir about what they do for you is a bit ridiculous.

BabsieGirl · 03-11-2004, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
Yes, which is why you have to eat more than a person with a slower metabolism.

Correct. But sometimes that doesn't work for certain individuals.

Quote:

I dont have a fast metabolism at all and I still have to eat around 5k calories a day to maintain my meager bodyweight.

And you look good!

Quote:

Unless you have a severely low red blood cell count, juice is not going to put weight on you other than water, without you increasing your calories.

Thanks for the tip

BabsieGirl · 03-11-2004, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
Metabolism always comes into play, diet always comes into play, you make it sound like it does not which is false. If you are fat or skinny or "normal," trying to change that requires diet, not drugs. Since you have not used steroids I think you trying to preach to the choir about what they do for you is a bit ridiculous.

Diet and metabolism always come into play. I never once said it didn't!

How did I make it sound like it does not?

if you are a skinny person and you've tried EVERYTHING, to put on weight.........including, eating more.......taking weight gainer....etc.......NOTHING WILL WORK!!!!!!

Correct, I haven't used steroids and I don't know much about them. I'm not "preaching to the choir." Juice helps people put on weight....does it not? .........i didn't say what type of weight!

**Mudge** · 03-11-2004, 05:05 PM

What is METABOLISM, the utilization of nutrients. If your body utilizes them faster than someone else (one sign besides being thin is a high body temperature) then you have to eat more to overcome that furnace inside you.

To say that you cannot defeat this demon without the help of drugs is assinine. You may never hold as much LBM as someone else with better genetics, but it does not mean you can't increase your bodyweight naturally, that is bogus.

03-10-2004, 06:24 PM	#1
zenith Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 101	OMG i dont believe it. I dont know if you remember but quite awhile ago about 6 weeks or so when i joined these boards i asked about a product called KOMPLETE by lamuscle. Most of you said its a waste of money and expensive and just like a normal weight gainer with glut and creatine. Anyway i thought i have to post this because ive started of a 3 day split routine with the weights and bench i brought and i used komplete for 3 weeks and ive gone up by 24 pounds its unbelieveable this stuff really does work. I thought id have to post to tel u all about it, it is 70 quid for 10 days supply so i buy 3 for 165 with 1 weeks work wage and use it for a month im gonna carry on using this all the time cause its amazing. you should all check it out i dont know why its working so well its not excatly got roids in it.

03-10-2004, 06:40 PM	#2
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,962 Photos: 2	Are you a newbie? That could be the cause of it working "so well". P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

03-10-2004, 07:51 PM	#8
22"bi's trax killa Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: US Posts: 137	ditto Pain is just another Pass One that we all must take

03-10-2004, 08:07 PM	#9
camarosuper6 Unstoppable Force Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,415	Yea.... 24 lbs in 3 weeks? Even for a newbie thats unreal. I would have to say that at least half of that is water, fat and clothes. "Show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you a guy tired of screwing her"

03-11-2004, 08:56 AM	#14
maze Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 372	OMG, this stuff is about $8 a serving !!!! Here is an interview with the owner of LA Muscle: http://www.sports-supplements.co.uk/...erview-mrx.php Last edited by maze : 03-11-2004 at 09:07 AM.

03-10-2004, 06:52 PM	#3
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	It must be water from the creatine and fat. Did you check your bf before and now ? Sorry for not believing in it

03-10-2004, 06:52 PM	#4
tomas101 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 602	why do u have to rain on his parade edit: premier

03-10-2004, 06:53 PM	#5
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	Premiller makes a great point. When anyone first starts lifting they make ridiculous gains at first....they will eventually slow down...so the 24 pounds that you went up means nearly nothing without your background(years spent lifting, height, weight, body fat%) If you are just starting out, its not impressive...but say your 5,8 at 220 lbs at 8% and gained 20+ pounds then it would be "amazeing"

03-10-2004, 06:56 PM	#7
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	That is true.

03-11-2004, 04:11 AM	#10
zenith Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 101	okay no im not newbie ive bodybuild for 3 years ive just started after stopping for about 6 months again. i originaly weighed 140 lb so not massive im now on about 160 lbs and its 3 weeks after using this im bigger and more cut so its not all water or fat, it does say this product is fot people who have have hit a platue. i havent uped my calorie intake or anything while on this and its not loaded with fat at all only 6grams per serving.

03-11-2004, 04:19 AM	#11
zenith Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 101	okay ive reading the contents on this and apart from vitamens i cant see where the weight gain is coming from it does have some good ingrediants thought ill write the ones that could be causing it. MALTODEXTRIN PFX is some sort of suger i think they dont label how much of this stuff is in here. DEXTROSE 25g helps with insulin i think dont know about weight SUPER-MICRONISED CREATINE MONOHYDRATE - 5g water weight or responding well to it LA GLUTAMINE - 5g this might help =\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\| CONJUGATED LINOLEIC ACID (CLA) - 2g i think this is helping lower my fat cause im deffinatly losing my belly. ALPHA LIPOIC ACID (ALA) - 200mg ive seen on forums this is good TAURINE - 1g this is ment to be good 2 ACETYL CARNITINE (ALC) - 500mg seen good reviews on site on this ZINC MONOMETHIONINE ASPARTATE - 485mg not sure about this but does have good feed back NIACIN - 84% RDA a good vitamen FOLIC ACID - 175% RDA good vitamen again theirs a few more incrediants but these are the ones that i think must be causing the transformation !!!!!!! ive never used many of these before so maybe its the creatine ribose and dextrose combination ???

03-11-2004, 06:26 AM	#12
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	We'd like to see pics please. Before pics too preferably... Gaining 24lbs in 3 weeks is better than steroidal performance in alot of cases... and the most potent things out there were the recent production of M1T and Methyldienolone, and I'm almost positive that those wont pack on 24lbs of lean muscle mass in 3 weeks I'm not sure what the deal is, but that amount is rather unrealistic... I'd loved to be proven wrong though.

03-11-2004, 07:38 AM	#13
BruceWayNE I won't lose til I lose Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: los angeles Posts: 61	^^^^^^^What he said^^^^^^^

03-11-2004, 09:10 AM	#15
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Yeah, it costs 70 British pounds I think... and each serving must be in the neighborhood of 80g. So what I'm thinking is that its at least $8 a serving. Thats rediculous!

03-11-2004, 10:37 AM	#16
zenith Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 101	what are you saying its over priced ? i will try and get pics on here and lamuscle allso say 70 pounds is cheap as all the supplements add up to 500 pounds together whats in komplete

03-11-2004, 10:42 AM	#17
camarosuper6 Unstoppable Force Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,415	8 dollars a serving is like going out to eat every day. WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. There is a nice MRP on bulknutrition for a dollar a packet. "Show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you a guy tired of screwing her"

03-11-2004, 10:55 AM	#18
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Zenith, those supplements would add up to that if you bought them in bulk. I dont really see any truly expensive item in that list

03-11-2004, 02:38 PM	#22
zenith Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 101	thanks babsie :0) and as for it adding more calroies its only 250 each serving not really a big calorie increase ?

03-11-2004, 05:05 PM	#30
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,474 Photos: 1	What is METABOLISM, the utilization of nutrients. If your body utilizes them faster than someone else (one sign besides being thin is a high body temperature) then you have to eat more to overcome that furnace inside you. To say that you cannot defeat this demon without the help of drugs is assinine. You may never hold as much LBM as someone else with better genetics, but it does not mean you can't increase your bodyweight naturally, that is bogus.

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